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== Opening post ==
Now that [[Forum:Validity: Do You Have a Licence to Save this Planet?|my validity proposal has concluded]] has concluded, I have another BBV Rule 4 by proxy case that I would like to discuss. This one deals with ''The Airzone Solution'', which I think could have a case for R4bp because the [[Airzone Corporation]] is mentioned in [[Jay Eales (in-universe)|Jay Eales]]' subsection of ''[[Burning with Optimism's Flames (anthology)|Burning with Optimism's Flames]]''' [[Contributors  (short story)|Contributors]] section, which is treated as a valid source by this wiki. Now, I'm aware that the original Airzone Solution film isn't covered on this wiki do to having no official connection to the DWU, however, [[The Airzone Solution (novelisation)|the novelization of it]] is, albeit as an invalid source, due to containing officially licensed references to DWU elements. I think it would make sense to validate the novelization of ''TAZ'' by R4bp because of this reference. [[User:Cgl1999|Cgl1999]] [[User talk:Cgl1999|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:44, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Now that [[Forum:Validity: Do You Have a Licence to Save this Planet?|my validity proposal has concluded]] has concluded, I have another BBV Rule 4 by proxy case that I would like to discuss. This one deals with ''The Airzone Solution'', which I think could have a case for R4bp because the [[Airzone Corporation]] is mentioned in [[Jay Eales (in-universe)|Jay Eales]]' subsection of ''[[Burning with Optimism's Flames (anthology)|Burning with Optimism's Flames]]''' [[Contributors  (short story)|Contributors]] section, which is treated as a valid source by this wiki. Now, I'm aware that the original Airzone Solution film isn't covered on this wiki do to having no official connection to the DWU, however, [[The Airzone Solution (novelisation)|the novelization of it]] is, albeit as an invalid source, due to containing officially licensed references to DWU elements. I think it would make sense to validate the novelization of ''TAZ'' by R4bp because of this reference. [[User:Cgl1999|Cgl1999]] [[User talk:Cgl1999|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:44, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
== Discussion ==
IIRC the original film isn't covered because it has no licensed connection to ''Who'', not authorial intent; so the film, like ''Cyberon'', isn't covered because of a rule two reason, not a rule four reason, so R4BP applies.
Even hypothetically, if the original film was covered but as invalid... I still wouldn't believe R4BP applies. ''[[Contributors (short story)|Contributors]]'' is a very very silly story. I believe it should be valid, but not anything we take so literally. The namedrop about the AirZone Corporation is a joke, amongst others like "saggy arsed Cybermen", it's all very tongue in cheek and on the nose. I don't feel that this story intended to bring the film "into DWU continuity", I think it was just a joke.
And the coverage of the novelisation is ancillary to this, as the novelisation came out ''after'' the ''BWOF'' short story... so R4BP cannot apply to that, surely? Also, IIRC, I do believe that novelisation definitely isn't meant to take place in the DWU given the only licensed concepts it uses being depicted as in-universe fiction. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 13:07, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

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Opening post

Now that my validity proposal has concluded has concluded, I have another BBV Rule 4 by proxy case that I would like to discuss. This one deals with The Airzone Solution, which I think could have a case for R4bp because the Airzone Corporation is mentioned in Jay Eales' subsection of Burning with Optimism's Flames' Contributors section, which is treated as a valid source by this wiki. Now, I'm aware that the original Airzone Solution film isn't covered on this wiki do to having no official connection to the DWU, however, the novelization of it is, albeit as an invalid source, due to containing officially licensed references to DWU elements. I think it would make sense to validate the novelization of TAZ by R4bp because of this reference. Cgl1999 05:44, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

IIRC the original film isn't covered because it has no licensed connection to Who, not authorial intent; so the film, like Cyberon, isn't covered because of a rule two reason, not a rule four reason, so R4BP applies. Even hypothetically, if the original film was covered but as invalid... I still wouldn't believe R4BP applies. Contributors is a very very silly story. I believe it should be valid, but not anything we take so literally. The namedrop about the AirZone Corporation is a joke, amongst others like "saggy arsed Cybermen", it's all very tongue in cheek and on the nose. I don't feel that this story intended to bring the film "into DWU continuity", I think it was just a joke.

And the coverage of the novelisation is ancillary to this, as the novelisation came out after the BWOF short story... so R4BP cannot apply to that, surely? Also, IIRC, I do believe that novelisation definitely isn't meant to take place in the DWU given the only licensed concepts it uses being depicted as in-universe fiction.

13:07, 6 August 2023 (UTC)