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 : I'd say to include them due to their crossover, but to properly substantiate the claim to a page, I think there would have to be more crossing over, rather than just similar characters. [[User:Gingerfool|Gingerfool]] [[User talk:Gingerfool|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
+::Alright, so, doing my dig through the forum archives, I ''don't believe'' that ''Dirk Gently'' was ever '''''explicitly''''' ruled against in a forum thread. What I found was that in early 2017, during the height of the "post FP wave of inclusion debates", [[User:Pluto2]] started a thread about the series based on Professor Chronotis. ([[Thread:209691]] at [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion Debates 1]] The thread was criticized by [[User:AeD]] and [[User:OttselSpy25]], as being "insane" and (potentially) "bad faith" and Pluto withdrew it the next day. But it was never explicitly ruled against, afaict. The closest we get is that in the resolution to another thread 6 days later, ([[Thread:208414]] ibid) Czech refers to AeD's characterization of these inclusion debates as "bad faith". (It would be disingenuous for me not to note that there's also an ''edit'' by Czech on that same day in the original thread by Pluto, but I have no idea what was done. There's no clear closing post, certainly.) But this thread was about ''Blake's 7'', and contains the fun quote:
+:::The majority of our readers are here -- let's face it -- because of the 2005 series. Which can't even be called "the new series" anymore. They are simply not going to buy [the idea that Blake's 7 and Doctor Who are the same universe].
+::Look, look, [[Forum:Rule 4 by Proxy and its ramifications: considered in the light of the forum archives]] still has no closing post, and we still seem no closer to a full resolution on some of these issues. I think Blake's 7 is the sort of thing that is probably better served on its own wiki. (But am fully willing to be wrong! Unlike FP, I think it largely does make sense disconnected from DW.) But the idea that calling it part of the DWU is ''bad faith'' is '''mindboggling'''.
+::Seriously.
+::Maybe there's a forum thread somewhere I'm not aware of, but it seems that ''Dirk Gently'' was just "that's stupid, shut up", without an official admin statement, and ''Hitchhikers'' didn't even have a discussion outside of Josiah Rowe saying "u do u" in [[Forum:In doctor who did the doctor ever state something somewhat like "they discovered a beetle that couldn't have evolved which proved god existed and since god is based on faith he must not exist"]]. (Though see also [[Talk:Oolon Colluphid]]. People have known about the issue since 2008 and it's been a very explicit "yeah, no, unless we get more than a name drop, there's no there there", just never a formal forum thread about it.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)