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::''It is not noteworthy!'' Just because the two are similar does not make it noteworthy! What makes it noteworthy is if the similarity is because of a relationship between the two! Did you even read what I said? "I don't see why you ''have'' to point out that two incidents or objects are similar, ''unless they are related''. If they ''are'' related, then you have a reason to point out the similarity. ''If they aren't related,'' then it's just coincidence and of no value ''whatsoever'' to the page or the wiki." --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 22:25, February 4, 2011 (UTC) | ::''It is not noteworthy!'' Just because the two are similar does not make it noteworthy! What makes it noteworthy is if the similarity is because of a relationship between the two! Did you even read what I said? "I don't see why you ''have'' to point out that two incidents or objects are similar, ''unless they are related''. If they ''are'' related, then you have a reason to point out the similarity. ''If they aren't related,'' then it's just coincidence and of no value ''whatsoever'' to the page or the wiki." --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 22:25, February 4, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::If there were similar, they would go under the heading ''See also''. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 22:29, February 4, 2011 (UTC) | :::If there were similar, they would go under the heading ''See also''. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 22:29, February 4, 2011 (UTC) | ||
::''And they aren't similar, which is my point!'' If they ''were'' similar, then you would have a reason to mention it. ''However'', since there is ''no'' connection between the two ships, why are you pointing it out? What is it about an unrelated similarity that makes you want to mention it, when there is no advantange or practical point for the page? --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 22:37, February 4, 2011 (UTC) | ::''And they aren't similar, which is my point!'' If they ''were'' similar, then you would have a reason to mention it. ''However'', since there is ''no'' connection between the two ships, why are you pointing it out? What is it about an unrelated similarity that makes you want to mention it, when there is no advantange or practical point for the page? --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 22:37, February 4, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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::Actually BoldClone... Your arguement was that they're not ''related''... But I do see where you both are coming from. You're pretty much saying that since it was not ''addressed in the show'' and/or ''confidential/behind th scenes''... It shouldn't be put on the wiki or atleast the page... But in mini-mitch's case.... He's just pointing out something ''similar''... And I do agree with those of you in the wiki that think the Jagaroth ship and the Aickman road ship look similar... They do! And I do believe that what mini-mich was saying was right... There are many articles on the wiki that do have parts that say somethig along the lines of "So-and-so did this in this episode kinda like how 'Bob' did in another episode..." or "X looks a lot like Y from the episode: " But don't fight over this... How about we just hold a vote or something? People could decide if they want to have that up on the page or not....? Just an idea? [[User:TheTARDIScontroller|TheTARDIScontroller]] 01:17, February 5, 2011 (UTC) | |||
==What the fuss is about== | ==What the fuss is about== |
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Sigh...since go one else will bother to go here to file their complaint as according to the site policy, I will, because I respect the rules. The information is coincidental. Why is it up there? --Bold Clone 22:05, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
- To me, it seems just like continuity. There are some bits of continuity on pages that state person X did thing Y is similar to what they did in situation Z. There is no need to remove it, it's not speculation, like you said it's coincidental - so what? - because it is coincidental, there's nothing wrong with adding it to the Behind the scenes section - it's worthy of one. Unless you want to remove all 'coincidental' information removed from this wiki, just like you want every single thing that could be speculation? Mini-mitch\talk 22:10, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
- Continuity is different; you're using a false analogy. Regardless, I don't see the point of saying "this guy did this, similar to how that guy did that." I don't see why you have to point out that two incidents or objects are similar, unless they are related. If they are related, then you have a reason to point out the similarity. If they aren't related, then it's just coincidence and of no value whatsoever to the page or the wiki. I don't see why the specific info on this page should have been added in the first place. There's nothing wrong with taking it off the BTS section, because it never belonged there anyway. --Bold Clone 22:18, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
- It does belong there. Anything that is noteworthy should go there. And this is noteworthy, and several User have also noticed this and discussed it, and hence the reason it was added. Mini-mitch\talk 22:21, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
- It is not noteworthy! Just because the two are similar does not make it noteworthy! What makes it noteworthy is if the similarity is because of a relationship between the two! Did you even read what I said? "I don't see why you have to point out that two incidents or objects are similar, unless they are related. If they are related, then you have a reason to point out the similarity. If they aren't related, then it's just coincidence and of no value whatsoever to the page or the wiki." --Bold Clone 22:25, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
- If there were similar, they would go under the heading See also. Mini-mitch\talk 22:29, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
- And they aren't similar, which is my point! If they were similar, then you would have a reason to mention it. However, since there is no connection between the two ships, why are you pointing it out? What is it about an unrelated similarity that makes you want to mention it, when there is no advantange or practical point for the page? --Bold Clone 22:37, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
- Actually BoldClone... Your arguement was that they're not related... But I do see where you both are coming from. You're pretty much saying that since it was not addressed in the show and/or confidential/behind th scenes... It shouldn't be put on the wiki or atleast the page... But in mini-mitch's case.... He's just pointing out something similar... And I do agree with those of you in the wiki that think the Jagaroth ship and the Aickman road ship look similar... They do! And I do believe that what mini-mich was saying was right... There are many articles on the wiki that do have parts that say somethig along the lines of "So-and-so did this in this episode kinda like how 'Bob' did in another episode..." or "X looks a lot like Y from the episode: " But don't fight over this... How about we just hold a vote or something? People could decide if they want to have that up on the page or not....? Just an idea? TheTARDIScontroller 01:17, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
What the fuss is about
When I encounterd this page, the above users were talking about a certain line that was in the behind the scenes section. After some digging in the history, I discovered the line was:
- Some fans have noticed that Number 79B, Aickman Road has a similar external appearance to the Jagaroth ship from DW: City of Death.
Please do not place this line back in the text until the matter is resolved here.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍
This line should go back in the article
- --Mini-mitch\talk 22:39, February 4, 2011 (UTC) - It's noteworthy, but I'll with go with the decision of the wiki. But please don't let this turn out to be another Howling Halls and don't start a 'Coincidental information policy' either.
This line should not go back in the article
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ . It's really mere coincidence. So what if the shape is similar. Now, if you can find a behind-the-scenes person remarking on its similarity to the Jagaroth ship, fine, that's relevant. But for an editor to comment on its similarity is a rather weak reason to include it in a BTS note.- It's similar, but not related. The information is not noteworthy, and there was no real practical or beneficial reason to have even put it in the article in the first place. --Bold Clone 22:38, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
- It not even true. Just because it has legs doesn't mean its automatically the consensus that it has the same design.--Skittles the hog--Talk 22:48, February 4, 2011 (UTC)