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:There seems to be a range of opinions that, in universe runs from exclusive to inclusive. I sort of like the out of universe definition: a contract helps. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 01:13, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
:There seems to be a range of opinions that, in universe runs from exclusive to inclusive. I sort of like the out of universe definition: a contract helps. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 01:13, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


:The Doctor never asked Canton to regularly travel in the TARDIS with him. Moreover, Canton was never actually a full-time companion. He shared a single adventure with the Doctor; this adventure included a couple a trips in the TARIDS. Riding in the TARDIS does not make you a companion. Long term travel with the Doctor would make you a companion. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 01:22, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
:The Doctor never asked Canton to regularly travel in the TARDIS with him. Moreover, Canton was never actually a full-time companion. He shared a single adventure with the Doctor; this adventure included a couple a trips in the TARIDS. Riding in the TARDIS does not make you a companion. Long term travel with the Doctor would make you a companion. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 01:22, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
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:Being asked to regularly travel isn't actually a requisite since several of the Doctor's companions, especially those of the First Doctor, were trapped aboard the TARDIS and unable to return home due to it's unpredictability.  The arguments for including Canton would be that he assisted the Doctor for an extended period of time (a little over three months), he was invited aboard the TARDIS (which in and of itself is a comparatively rare event) and traveled a few times.  Note that Sgt. Benton is considered a companion on this board even though he only flew in the TARDIS once.
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:The difficulty with Canton is that while he only participated in one adventure, that adventure was over three months long.  Three months of assisting the Doctor plus TARDIS travel should qualify someone for companion status, but the fact that those three months were one long adventure seems to put Canton's inclusion in doubt. Had this two part episode been a twelve part miniseries covering the same period I think there would be less opposition to the idea.  Bear in mind that Adam Mitchell is included in the list of companions even though he knew the Doctor for far less time.


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Should it be mentioned in this article that he was homosexual? He says to Nixon at the end of Day of the Moon that he wanted to marry a black male, to which Nixon replies "I think that the moon is far enough for now". 92.237.115.175 19:40, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Companion?

He traveled with the Doctor in the TARDIS, was helping save the world and was summoned to The Doctor's wake. Companion? I think so. 92.29.189.121 20:11, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I would say ally would be a better definition, it's not like the Doctor openly said join me for some adventures in the TARDIS, he just kinda got roped in with one. --Revan\Talk 14:51, May 1, 2011 (UTC) I'd call Canton a companion. We've got Abigail and Kazran listed in the "Companions of the Eleventh Doctor" template, why not Canton? Jivjov 22:16, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

  • The difference between Canton and Abigail and Kazran is that Abigail and Kazran had regular trips whereas Canton, so far, has only been to Florida and back a few times. 82.24.93.170 22:41, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
The problem with that is that regular trips to not make one a companion. (Lady Christina, Astri, etc.) --Bold Clone 23:01, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Canton is not a companion. He is an ally, but not every ally of the Doctor's is a companion. I understand there are exceptions for some of the specials, but Canton does not qualify even under those exceptions. 152.132.9.132 17:45, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

There's enough to make a good argument for Canton being a companion. He traveled in the TARDIS and assisted the Doctor for better than three months.

The Doctor never asked Canton to regularly travel in the TARDIS with him. Boom--headshot. Canton was an ally, not a companion. --Bold Clone 00:27, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
He never asked Ben and Polly, either.
There's relevant discussion here in the Panopticon:
http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Disputed_Companions&t=20110516230540
There seems to be a range of opinions that, in universe runs from exclusive to inclusive. I sort of like the out of universe definition: a contract helps. Boblipton 01:13, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
The Doctor never asked Canton to regularly travel in the TARDIS with him. Moreover, Canton was never actually a full-time companion. He shared a single adventure with the Doctor; this adventure included a couple a trips in the TARIDS. Riding in the TARDIS does not make you a companion. Long term travel with the Doctor would make you a companion. --Bold Clone 01:22, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
Being asked to regularly travel isn't actually a requisite since several of the Doctor's companions, especially those of the First Doctor, were trapped aboard the TARDIS and unable to return home due to it's unpredictability. The arguments for including Canton would be that he assisted the Doctor for an extended period of time (a little over three months), he was invited aboard the TARDIS (which in and of itself is a comparatively rare event) and traveled a few times. Note that Sgt. Benton is considered a companion on this board even though he only flew in the TARDIS once.
The difficulty with Canton is that while he only participated in one adventure, that adventure was over three months long. Three months of assisting the Doctor plus TARDIS travel should qualify someone for companion status, but the fact that those three months were one long adventure seems to put Canton's inclusion in doubt. Had this two part episode been a twelve part miniseries covering the same period I think there would be less opposition to the idea. Bear in mind that Adam Mitchell is included in the list of companions even though he knew the Doctor for far less time.

Incorrect Information

In the article it states that Canton left the FBI because he wants to marry a black man. This is false, he was kicked out of the FBI because he wants to marry a black man. It is clearly stated in the episode, Day of the Moon, at approximately 39 minutes. This is when the Doctor states "Canton just wants to get married, hell of a reason to kick him out of the FBI."

It was also stated in the Impossible Astronaut, at approximately 18min 40sec, that Canton was kicked out of the FBI, when the Doctor was asking River who Canton is. River replies with "Ex-FBI, got kicked out."

While after that she does say "Six weeks after he left the bereau the president contacted him for a private meeting." Leaving the bureau in this case meant leaving due to being kicked out.


24.57.32.64 05:00, May 1, 2011 (UTC)JBonkerz