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== Limiting factors ==
== Limiting factors ==
=== Companions ===
=== Companions ===
Time placement of [[Second Doctor]] stories has a lot to do with looking at the companions.  Any story featuring only [[Ben Jackson]] and [[Polly Wright]] must take place '''''before''''' [[DW]]: ''[[The Highlanders]]''; any story featuring [[Jamie McCrimmon]] must take place '''''after''''' [[DW]]: ''[[The Highlanders]]''. Any story with [[Victoria Waterfield]] must take place during or after [[DW]]: ''[[Evil of the Daleks]]'' and before [[DW]]: ''[[Fury from the Deep]]''. Any story with [[Zoe Heriot]] must be set during or after [[DW]]: ''[[The Wheel in Space]]''.
Time placement of [[Second Doctor]] stories has a lot to do with looking at the companions.  Any story featuring only [[Ben Jackson]] and [[Polly Wright]] must take place '''''before''''' [[TV]]: ''[[The Highlanders]]''; any story featuring [[Jamie McCrimmon]] must take place '''''after''''' [[TV]]: ''[[The Highlanders]]''. Any story with [[Victoria Waterfield]] must take place during or after [[TV]]: ''[[Evil of the Daleks]]'' and before [[TV]]: ''[[Fury from the Deep]]''. Any story with [[Zoe Heriot]] must be set during or after [[TV]]: ''[[The Wheel in Space]]''.


Where it gets tricky is when the Second Doctor is with un-televised companions, or with Jamie alone.  A lot of these stories are often said to occur during [[Season 6B]], a fan-opined spot on the timeline after the Doctor's trial on Gallifrey in ''[[The War Games]]''. Such placement is possible because we don't ''actually'' see the Second Doctor regenerate into the Third.  Thus it is possible to imagine, as ''[[TV Comic]]'' writers and [[Terrance Dicks]] certainly did, that the Second Doctor survived for an unspecified period of time after ''The War Games''.
Where it gets tricky is when the Second Doctor is with un-televised companions, or with Jamie alone.  A lot of these stories are often said to occur during [[Season 6B]], a fan-opined spot on the timeline after the Doctor's trial on Gallifrey in ''[[The War Games]]''. Such placement is possible because we don't ''actually'' see the Second Doctor regenerate into the Third.  Thus it is possible to imagine, as ''[[TV Comic]]'' writers and [[Terrance Dicks]] certainly did, that the Second Doctor survived for an unspecified period of time after ''The War Games''.
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== Timeline ==
== Timeline ==
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Tenth Planet]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Tenth Planet]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Power of the Daleks]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Power of the Daleks]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Highlanders]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Highlanders]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Underwater Menace]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Underwater Menace]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Moonbase]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Moonbase]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Macra Terror]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Macra Terror]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Faceless Ones]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Faceless Ones]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Evil of the Daleks]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Evil of the Daleks]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Tomb of the Cybermen]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Tomb of the Cybermen]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Abominable Snowmen]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Abominable Snowmen]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Ice Warriors]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Ice Warriors]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Enemy of the World]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Enemy of the World]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Web of Fear]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Web of Fear]]''
* [[DWMS]]: ''[[Bringer of Darkness]]''
* [[DWMS]]: ''[[Bringer of Darkness]]''
:Victoria states that they had just been underground.
:Victoria states that they had just been underground.
* [[DW]]: ''[[Fury from the Deep]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[Fury from the Deep]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Wheel in Space]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Wheel in Space]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Dominators]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Dominators]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Mind Robber]]'' / [[DWM]]: ''[[Time & Time Again]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Mind Robber]]'' / [[COMIC]]: ''[[Time & Time Again (comic story)|Time & Time Again]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Invasion]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Invasion]]''
* [[IDW]]: ''[[The Forgotten]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Forgotten]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Krotons]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Krotons]]''
* [[DWM]]: ''[[Land of the Blind]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Land of the Blind (comic story)|Land of the Blind]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[Prison in Space]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Prison in Space]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Seeds of Death]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Seeds of Death]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Space Pirates]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Space Pirates]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[Prison in Space]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Prison in Space]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The War Games]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The War Games]]''
:*[[EDA]]: ''[[The Eight Doctors]]''
:*[[PROSE]]: ''[[The Eight Doctors]]''
:*[[ST]]: ''[[War Crimes]]''
:*[[PROSE]]: ''[[War Crimes]]''
: ''The Eight Doctors'' and ''War Crimes'' occurs during ''The War Games''
: ''The Eight Doctors'' and ''War Crimes'' occurs during ''The War Games''
:The Doctor was sent into a forced regeneration at the end of ''The War Games''. It would later be revealed that the Doctor had in fact began working for the Time Lords on missions, and that his regeneration had been faked.
:The Doctor was sent into a forced regeneration at the end of ''The War Games''. It would later be revealed that the Doctor had in fact began working for the Time Lords on missions, and that his regeneration had been faked.
* [[PDA]]: ''[[World Game]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[World Game]]''
:* [[PDA]]: ''[[Players (novel)|Players]]''
:* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Players (novel)|Players]]''
:''World Game'' is the first story in the series of [[Season 6B]]. Early in the book, the Doctor asks to be sent to World War II to see if the Time Lords have really sent the soldiers from the War Games home, and ''Players'' occurs here. After ''Players'', the Doctor returns to Gallifrey to continue the events of ''World Game''. At the end of ''World Game'', the Doctor blackmails the Time Lords into letting him travel with [[Jamie McCrimmon]] as his companion once more.
:''World Game'' is the first story in the series of [[Season 6B]]. Early in the book, the Doctor asks to be sent to World War II to see if the Time Lords have really sent the soldiers from the War Games home, and ''Players'' occurs here. After ''Players'', the Doctor returns to Gallifrey to continue the events of ''World Game''. At the end of ''World Game'', the Doctor blackmails the Time Lords into letting him travel with [[Jamie McCrimmon]] as his companion once more.
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Two Doctors]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Two Doctors]]''
:''World Game'' leads directly into ''The Two Doctors''
:''World Game'' leads directly into ''The Two Doctors''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Time Eater]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Time Eater]]''
:The Doctor has his [[Stattenheim remote control]]
:The Doctor has his [[Stattenheim remote control]]
* [[CC]]: ''[[Helicon Prime (audio story)|Helicon Prime]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Helicon Prime (audio story)|Helicon Prime]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[That Time I Nearly Destroyed the World Whilst Looking for a Dress]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[That Time I Nearly Destroyed the World Whilst Looking for a Dress]]''
:Free of Jamie or any televised companion, the Doctor eventually served the two parts of his sentence separately.  First he was exiled to Earth, where he lived in comparative opulence at the [[Carlton Grange Hotel]] in [[London]].
:Free of Jamie or any televised companion, the Doctor eventually served the two parts of his sentence separately.  First he was exiled to Earth, where he lived in comparative opulence at the [[Carlton Grange Hotel]] in [[London]].
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Action in Exile]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Action in Exile]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Mark of Terror]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Mark of Terror]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Brotherhood]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Brotherhood]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[U.F.O.]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[U.F.O.]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Night Walkers]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Night Walkers]]''
:One night, while he was a panellist on a game show, the Time Lords finally caught the Doctor and forced him to [[regenerate]], then set the controls of the TARDIS to dematerialise one last time, spinning him off towards the opening moments of ''[[Spearhead from Space]]''.
:One night, while he was a panellist on a game show, the Time Lords finally caught the Doctor and forced him to [[regenerate]], then set the controls of the TARDIS to dematerialise one last time, spinning him off towards the opening moments of ''[[Spearhead from Space]]''.


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Given the fact that ''[[The Land of Happy Endings (comic story)|The Land of Happy Endings]]'' explicitly tells us that the Doctor dreamed up John and Gillian, it's much safer jut to consider these dreams, removed from the timeline entirely.  Because Jamie and John and Gillian actually are in the same strip — ''[[Invasion of the Quarks]]'' — it's much easier just to believe his TVC exploits with the Doctor are part of that same "dream continuity".  There's no particular reason to have faith in the order of these stories, since they're dreams anyway, but for convenience will choose publication order as the order in which the dreams occurred.  
Given the fact that ''[[The Land of Happy Endings (comic story)|The Land of Happy Endings]]'' explicitly tells us that the Doctor dreamed up John and Gillian, it's much safer jut to consider these dreams, removed from the timeline entirely.  Because Jamie and John and Gillian actually are in the same strip — ''[[Invasion of the Quarks]]'' — it's much easier just to believe his TVC exploits with the Doctor are part of that same "dream continuity".  There's no particular reason to have faith in the order of these stories, since they're dreams anyway, but for convenience will choose publication order as the order in which the dreams occurred.  


* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Extortioner (comic story)|The Extortioner]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Extortioner (comic story)|The Extortioner]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Trodos Ambush]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Trodos Ambush]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Doctor Strikes Back]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Doctor Strikes Back]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Zombies]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Zombies]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Master of Spiders]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Master of Spiders]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Exterminator]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Exterminator]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Barnabus (comic story)|Barnabus]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Barnabus (comic story)|Barnabus]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Jungle Adventure]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Jungle Adventure]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Monsters from the Past]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Monsters from the Past]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The TARDIS Worshippers]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The TARDIS Worshippers]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Space War Two]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Space War Two]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Egyptian Escapade]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Egyptian Escapade]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Coming of the Cybermen]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Coming of the Cybermen]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Faithful Rocket Pack]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Faithful Rocket Pack]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Flower Power]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Flower Power]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Witches]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Witches]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Cyber-Mole (comic story)|Cyber-Mole]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Cyber-Mole (comic story)|Cyber-Mole]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Sabre-Toothed Gorillas]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Sabre-Toothed Gorillas]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Cyber Empire]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Cyber Empire]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Dyrons]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Dyrons]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Return of the Witches]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Return of the Witches]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Masquerade]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Masquerade]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Dr. Who and the Space Pirates]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Dr. Who and the Space Pirates]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Car of the Century]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Car of the Century]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Jokers]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Jokers]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Attack of the Daleks]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Attack of the Daleks]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Pursued by the Trods]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Pursued by the Trods]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Time Museum (comic story)|The Time Museum]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Time Museum (comic story)|The Time Museum]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Invasion of the Quarks]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Invasion of the Quarks]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Killer Wasps]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Killer Wasps]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Ice Cap Terror]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Ice Cap Terror]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Jungle of Doom]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Jungle of Doom]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Father Time (comic story)|Father Time]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Father Time (comic story)|Father Time]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Martha the Mechanical Housemaid]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Martha the Mechanical Housemaid]]''


== Not placeable ==
== Not placeable ==
These stories are not easily placeable, since they have no companion, but neither is the Doctor in exile on 20th century Earth.  Maybe they ''are'' a part of Season 6b, but if so, they're a part never clearly outlined in any narrative. It's equally possible that the Doctor had better control of his TARDIS than he let on.  He ''could'' have slipped away during a dull moment in a televised story.  Because of this uncertainty, it's safest to say that we just don't know ''when'' they occurred.
These stories are not easily placeable, since they have no companion, but neither is the Doctor in exile on 20th century Earth.  Maybe they ''are'' a part of Season 6b, but if so, they're a part never clearly outlined in any narrative. It's equally possible that the Doctor had better control of his TARDIS than he let on.  He ''could'' have slipped away during a dull moment in a televised story.  Because of this uncertainty, it's safest to say that we just don't know ''when'' they occurred.
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Duellists]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Duellists]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Eskimo Joe]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Eskimo Joe]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Peril at 60 Fathoms]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Peril at 60 Fathoms]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Operation Wurlitzer]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Operation Wurlitzer]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Three Doctors]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Three Doctors]]''
* [[DW]]: ''[[The Five Doctors]]''
* [[TV]]: ''[[The Five Doctors]]''
* [[VG]]: ''[[Destiny of the Doctors]]''
* [[GAME]]: ''[[Destiny of the Doctors]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Champion]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Champion]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Entertainer (comic story)|The Entertainer]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Entertainer (comic story)|The Entertainer]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[The Electrodes (comic story)|The Electrodes]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Electrodes (comic story)|The Electrodes]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Death Race]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Death Race]]''
* [[TVC]]: ''[[Test Flight]]''
* [[COMIC]]: ''[[Test Flight]]''
* [[DWY]]: ''[[Loop the Loup]]''
* [[DWY]]: ''[[Loop the Loup]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[All of Beyond]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[All of Beyond]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Man Who (Nearly) Killed Christmas]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Man Who (Nearly) Killed Christmas]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Mother's Little Helper]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Mother's Little Helper]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Blue Road Dance]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Blue Road Dance]]''
*[[ST]]: ''[[Scientific Adviser]]''
*[[PROSE]]: ''[[Scientific Adviser]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Steward's Story]]'' 
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Steward's Story]]'' 
:The Doctor in this story is vague. It is either the [[Second Doctor]] or the [[Seventh Doctor|Seventh]].
:The Doctor in this story is vague. It is either the [[Second Doctor]] or the [[Seventh Doctor|Seventh]].
* [[ST]]: ''[[Golem (short story)|Golem]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Golem (short story)|Golem]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[All of Beyond]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[All of Beyond]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Dust (short story)|Dust]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Dust (short story)|Dust]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Reunion (ST short story)|Reunion]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Reunion (ST short story)|Reunion]]''
* [[MA]]: ''[[Who Killed Kennedy]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Who Killed Kennedy]]''
:The Doctor in this book is vague. It is either the [[Second Doctor]] or the [[Seventh Doctor|Seventh]].
:The Doctor in this book is vague. It is either the [[Second Doctor]] or the [[Seventh Doctor|Seventh]].


== Yet to be evaluated ==
== Yet to be evaluated ==
* [[CC]]: ''[[The Great Space Elevator]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Great Space Elevator]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[Resistance (audio story)|Resistance]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Resistance (audio story)|Resistance]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[The Glorious Revolution]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Glorious Revolution]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[The Emperor of Eternity]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Emperor of Eternity]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[The Three Companions]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Three Companions]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[Echoes of Grey]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Echoes of Grey]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[The Forbidden Time]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Forbidden Time]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[The Memory Cheats (audio story)|The Memory Cheats]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Memory Cheats (audio story)|The Memory Cheats]]''
* [[CC]]: ''[[The Selachian Gambit (audio story)|The Selachian Gambit]]''
* [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Selachian Gambit (audio story)|The Selachian Gambit]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[A Stain of Red in the Sand (audio story)|A Stain of Red in the Sand]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[A Stain of Red in the Sand (audio story)|A Stain of Red in the Sand]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Way Forwards (audio story)|The Way Forwards]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Way Forwards (audio story)|The Way Forwards]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Seven to One (audio story)|Seven to One]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Seven to One (audio story)|Seven to One]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Five Dimensional Man (audio story)|The Five Dimensional Man]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Five Dimensional Man (audio story)|The Five Dimensional Man]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Penny Wise, Pound Foolish (audio story)|Penny Wise, Pound Foolish]]
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Penny Wise, Pound Foolish (audio story)|Penny Wise, Pound Foolish]]
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Old Rogue (audio story)|The Old Rogue]]'' (flashback)
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Old Rogue (audio story)|The Old Rogue]]'' (flashback)
* [[NA]]: ''[[Timewyrm: Apocalypse]]'' 
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Timewyrm: Apocalypse]]'' 
* [[MA]]: ''[[The Menagerie]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Menagerie]]''
* [[MA]]: ''[[Invasion of the Cat-People]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Invasion of the Cat-People]]''
* [[MA]]: ''[[Downtime (novelisation)|Downtime]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Downtime (novelisation)|Downtime]]''
* [[MA]]: ''[[Twilight of the Gods (MA novel)|Twilight of the Gods]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Twilight of the Gods (MA novel)|Twilight of the Gods]]''
* [[MA]]: ''[[The Dark Path]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Dark Path]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[The Murder Game]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Murder Game]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[The Roundheads]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Roundheads]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[Dreams of Empire]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Dreams of Empire]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[The Final Sanction]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Final Sanction]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[Independence Day (novel)|Independence Day]]'' (flashback cameo)
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Independence Day (novel)|Independence Day]]'' (flashback cameo)
* [[PDA]]: ''[[Heart of TARDIS]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Heart of TARDIS]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[Dying in the Sun]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Dying in the Sun]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[Combat Rock]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Combat Rock]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[The Colony of Lies]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Colony of Lies]]''
* [[PDA]]: ''[[The Indestructible Man]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Indestructible Man]]''
* [[TN]]: ''[[Foreign Devils]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Foreign Devils]]''
* [[TN]]: ''[[Wonderland]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Wonderland]]''
* [[DWAN]]: ''[[The Sour Note]]''
* [[DWAN]]: ''[[The Sour Note]]''
* [[DWAN]]: ''[[The Dream Masters]]''
* [[DWAN]]: ''[[The Dream Masters]]''
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* [[DWAN]]: ''[[The Sleeping Beast]]''
* [[DWAN]]: ''[[The Sleeping Beast]]''
* [[DWY]]: ''[[Briefly Noted]]''
* [[DWY]]: ''[[Briefly Noted]]''
* [[BE]]: ''[[Future Imperfect]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Future Imperfect]]''
* [[BE]]: ''[[Dream a Little Dream For Me]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Dream a Little Dream For Me]]''
* [[VD]]: ''[[Fallen Angel (short story)|Fallen Angel]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Fallen Angel (short story)|Fallen Angel]]''
* [[VD]]: ''[[Vortex of Fear]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Vortex of Fear]]''
* [[VD]]: ''[[Aliens and Predators]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Aliens and Predators]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[uPVC]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[uPVC]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Please Shut the Gate]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Please Shut the Gate]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Twin Piques]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Twin Piques]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Constant Companion]]'' 
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Constant Companion]]'' 
* [[ST]]: ''[[Five Card Draw]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Five Card Draw]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Face-Painter]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Face-Painter]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Astronomer's Apprentice]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Astronomer's Apprentice]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Glass Princess]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Glass Princess]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Greenaway]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Greenaway]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[One Small Step...]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[One Small Step...]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Age of Ambition]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Age of Ambition]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Farmer's Story]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Farmer's Story]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Screamager]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Screamager]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Last Emperor]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Last Emperor]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Goodwill Toward Men]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Goodwill Toward Men]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[That Which Went Away]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[That Which Went Away]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Undercurrents]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Undercurrents]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Visiting Hours]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Visiting Hours]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Mercury (short story)|Mercury]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Mercury (short story)|Mercury]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Pluto (short story)|Pluto]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Pluto (short story)|Pluto]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Feast]]'' 
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Feast]]'' 
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Revolutionaries]]'' 
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Revolutionaries]]'' 
* [[ST]]: ''[[Saint Nicholas's Bones]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Saint Nicholas's Bones]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Father Figure]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Father Figure]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Lost]]'' 
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Lost]]'' 
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Avant Guardian]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Avant Guardian]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Time Eater]]'' 
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Time Eater]]'' 
* [[ST]]: ''[[Across Silent Seas]]'' 
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Across Silent Seas]]'' 
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Cutty Wren]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Cutty Wren]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Christmas Presence]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Christmas Presence]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Lepidoptery for Beginners]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Lepidoptery for Beginners]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[One Step Forward, Two Steps Back]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[One Step Forward, Two Steps Back]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[Homework]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Homework]]''
* [[ST]]: ''[[The Slave War]]''
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Slave War]]''
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This page lists appearances of the Second Doctor in the order in which he experienced them. This timeline is based on observations of the Doctor Who universe and the events in each of these stories. From these observations we have attempted to build a concise timeline. There are also many gaps between stories.

The layout of this timeline is based in part on the observations on Doctor Who Reference Guide and Doctor Who - The Complete Adventures, Lance Parkin's AHistory and other sources that allow us to make observations. None of these sources should be used solely as a source or considered a "true" timeline for stories.

Limiting factors

Companions

Time placement of Second Doctor stories has a lot to do with looking at the companions. Any story featuring only Ben Jackson and Polly Wright must take place before TV: The Highlanders; any story featuring Jamie McCrimmon must take place after TV: The Highlanders. Any story with Victoria Waterfield must take place during or after TV: Evil of the Daleks and before TV: Fury from the Deep. Any story with Zoe Heriot must be set during or after TV: The Wheel in Space.

Where it gets tricky is when the Second Doctor is with un-televised companions, or with Jamie alone. A lot of these stories are often said to occur during Season 6B, a fan-opined spot on the timeline after the Doctor's trial on Gallifrey in The War Games. Such placement is possible because we don't actually see the Second Doctor regenerate into the Third. Thus it is possible to imagine, as TV Comic writers and Terrance Dicks certainly did, that the Second Doctor survived for an unspecified period of time after The War Games.

But you can't always shuffle off these difficult stories to Season 6b. And even if you do put them there, it's hard to know precisely where they sit in relation to each other.

Problem children: John, Gillian and TV Comic's Jamie

The biggest unknowns certainly surround TV Comic stories, because of a fundamental continuity error. There's no way around it, no retcon that can be applied — the TV Comic writers just got it wrong. At the beginning of his run in TV Comic, the Second Doctor effectively inherits John and Gillian from the First Doctor. But then after a few stories with the brats, he puts them in school on Zebadee and, in the same story, meets up with Jamie McCrimmon — again. That is, he knows who Jamie is. Somehow, Jamie has made his way to 20th century Scotland, but we don't know how.

So time placement of the John and Gillian and Jamie TV Comic stories is, frankly, impossible. How could he have already known Jamie at the same time he was travelling with the kids? Were John and Gillian always stowed away on the TARDIS while the Doctor travelled around with Ben, Polly, Jamie, Victoria and Zoe? There is no great explanation for it.

Saying that all of the TV Comic stories occur during Season 6b is problematic at best. Action in Exile – one of the first post-Jamie strips — certainly goes out of its way to depict the Doctor as newly exiled. You can't even really construct some timey-wimey narrative, in which everything prior to Action in Exile actually happened after it. Why? Attempts to construct a timeline that works for the Second Doctor are always frustrated by the need to accommodate John and Gillian's travels with the First Doctor.

It was all a dream

So what do we do with these wayward scribbles? Say that the Doctor dreamt it all up. We've even got a source for that theory. The Land of Happy Endings explicitly says that the brats were just a dream that the Doctor periodically had. Since sanity is valuable, why not avail ourselves of Scott Gray's solution?

If we do that, then the TVC timeline goes something like this:

Timeline

Victoria states that they had just been underground.
The Eight Doctors and War Crimes occurs during The War Games
The Doctor was sent into a forced regeneration at the end of The War Games. It would later be revealed that the Doctor had in fact began working for the Time Lords on missions, and that his regeneration had been faked.
World Game is the first story in the series of Season 6B. Early in the book, the Doctor asks to be sent to World War II to see if the Time Lords have really sent the soldiers from the War Games home, and Players occurs here. After Players, the Doctor returns to Gallifrey to continue the events of World Game. At the end of World Game, the Doctor blackmails the Time Lords into letting him travel with Jamie McCrimmon as his companion once more.
World Game leads directly into The Two Doctors
The Doctor has his Stattenheim remote control
Free of Jamie or any televised companion, the Doctor eventually served the two parts of his sentence separately. First he was exiled to Earth, where he lived in comparative opulence at the Carlton Grange Hotel in London.
One night, while he was a panellist on a game show, the Time Lords finally caught the Doctor and forced him to regenerate, then set the controls of the TARDIS to dematerialise one last time, spinning him off towards the opening moments of Spearhead from Space.

The Doctor's dreams

Given the fact that The Land of Happy Endings explicitly tells us that the Doctor dreamed up John and Gillian, it's much safer jut to consider these dreams, removed from the timeline entirely. Because Jamie and John and Gillian actually are in the same strip — Invasion of the Quarks — it's much easier just to believe his TVC exploits with the Doctor are part of that same "dream continuity". There's no particular reason to have faith in the order of these stories, since they're dreams anyway, but for convenience will choose publication order as the order in which the dreams occurred.

Not placeable

These stories are not easily placeable, since they have no companion, but neither is the Doctor in exile on 20th century Earth. Maybe they are a part of Season 6b, but if so, they're a part never clearly outlined in any narrative. It's equally possible that the Doctor had better control of his TARDIS than he let on. He could have slipped away during a dull moment in a televised story. Because of this uncertainty, it's safest to say that we just don't know when they occurred.

The Doctor in this story is vague. It is either the Second Doctor or the Seventh.
The Doctor in this book is vague. It is either the Second Doctor or the Seventh.

Yet to be evaluated

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