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:::::Hopefully we'll get a better name for him next Saturday, but until then "The War Doctor" does seem the most appropriate. "The War Doctor" might not be an in-universe name, but neither is "The Doctor", and in my opinion just calling him "The Doctor" even with a parenthetical is even worse from an in-universe perspective since one of the few things we do seem to know about him is that he did not go by that name. [[User:Burzolog|Burzolog]] [[User talk:Burzolog|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:28, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
:::::Hopefully we'll get a better name for him next Saturday, but until then "The War Doctor" does seem the most appropriate. "The War Doctor" might not be an in-universe name, but neither is "The Doctor", and in my opinion just calling him "The Doctor" even with a parenthetical is even worse from an in-universe perspective since one of the few things we do seem to know about him is that he did not go by that name. [[User:Burzolog|Burzolog]] [[User talk:Burzolog|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:28, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
::::::Lady Junky, it's [[Tardis:Disambiguation policy#Disambiguation rules|site policy]] to use the name of the character's debut episode when disambiguation is needed. But I agree that this article should be called The War Doctor, as that's what he's called in Night of the Doctor's credits. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|21:09,14/11/2013}}
::::::Lady Junky, it's [[Tardis:Disambiguation policy#Disambiguation rules|site policy]] to use the name of the character's debut episode when disambiguation is needed. But I agree that this article should be called The War Doctor, as that's what he's called in Night of the Doctor's credits. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|21:09,14/11/2013}}
:::::::Note that ''all'' the incarnation of the Doctor, at least from Hartnell to Hurt, are the Renegade. At least, ''[[Dead Romance (novel)|Dead Romance]]'' has [[Chris Cwej]] referring to the Seventh Doctor as the Evil Renegade after he's been brainwashed by the Time Lords. So I don't think the title's unique to the War Doctor. -- [[User:Rowan Earthwood|Rowan Earthwood]] [[User talk:Rowan Earthwood|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:36, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

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When the article name is changed it'll need to be noted that he is not referred to as the War Doctor on screen, just in the closing credits, at least in the minisode (that may change, of course). Also, media are already beginning to refer to him as the Ninth Doctor, so a redirect of some sort will need to be added to Ninth Doctor. I will take the liberty if it isn't locked and no one else has done it already. 68.146.70.124talk to me 14:19, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

I think a hatnote on "Ninth Doctor" is better than a redirect. Furthermore, he isn't actually the "Ninth Doctor" because he isn't a "Doctor" due to breaking the "promise" and using a different name. Also, it had been made incredibly clear that Matt Smith is the Eleventh Doctor anyway. --SnorlaxMonster 14:28, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
His name is mentioned in July's issue of Sky Jacks, where the Doctor who ends the Time War is called the Renegade. That's about as in-universe as we're gonna get, and he's not called the Doctor then either. --Revan\Talk 14:44, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
I suggest we wait until after the 23rd to make a decision on this. Silent Hunter UK 19:21, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Oh no. Please, we can't keep this name. That was good when he only appeared in "The Name of the Doctor". Now, he is in two different stories so... The Renegade or the War Doctor, I think. If they put "The War Doctor" in the credits, it is not an coincidence :) Lady Junky 19:31, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully we'll get a better name for him next Saturday, but until then "The War Doctor" does seem the most appropriate. "The War Doctor" might not be an in-universe name, but neither is "The Doctor", and in my opinion just calling him "The Doctor" even with a parenthetical is even worse from an in-universe perspective since one of the few things we do seem to know about him is that he did not go by that name. Burzolog 20:28, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Lady Junky, it's site policy to use the name of the character's debut episode when disambiguation is needed. But I agree that this article should be called The War Doctor, as that's what he's called in Night of the Doctor's credits.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  21:09,14/11/2013 
Note that all the incarnation of the Doctor, at least from Hartnell to Hurt, are the Renegade. At least, Dead Romance has Chris Cwej referring to the Seventh Doctor as the Evil Renegade after he's been brainwashed by the Time Lords. So I don't think the title's unique to the War Doctor. -- Rowan Earthwood 00:36, November 15, 2013 (UTC)