Talk:Marsh Dalek

Ace and Lungbarrow

I have a piece of Ace's internal dialogue from NA: Lungbarrow

The weapon had been a high-impulse carbine - the sort of heavy-duty gun carried by anti-Dalek squads in the Flova trenches during her time with the Irregulars. One raser lozenge could slice the legs off a Marsh-Dalek at sixty metres.[1]

Could someone more familiar with Ace's history place this time-wise and possibly parse the meaning of "raser lozenge".--Nyktimos 02:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Time wise it occurs during Ace's time with the Spacefleet, which begins sometime around when she leaves the Doctor in Love and War and ends when she rejoins him in Deceit. There aren't any stories I know of that actually cover her time with the Spacefleet though.

As far as 'razor lozenge' I'm really not sure, however I think in either Shadowmind or Falls the Shadow Ace has developed Nitro-9 like bombs that are saliva activated (you put them in your mouth or chew them and then spit them out - bang. If you swallow them the stomach acids neutralise the bomb). That's the only think I can thing of. But from the way it's written it sounds like something the regular military carries rather than something Ace created. --Tangerineduel 05:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

God only knows what a "raser lozenge" is. As if Lungbarrow didn't do enough damage to DW, it also decided to completely make up words. "Raser" is of course not an English word, although it has been trademarked by a company making plug-in hybrid automative technology. One imagines "raser" might be a super-duper "laser", and thus an acronym of some kind. Following the "laser" and "maser" patterns, it's "some kind of wave amplification that begins with R" by stimulated emission of radiation. Radio amplification? Anyway, the idea seems to be a gun that fires little "discs" of energy, whose strength/impact/intensity the older Ace believes can't be moderated. Doesn't much matter though. The way I read the entire passage, it's all a dream, isn't it? Or is the older Ace really truly talking to herself? CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 08:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, the older Ace is real and nothing about her memory seems off. Otherwise, Lungbarrow is too painful for me to understand. Okay, the high-impulse carbine is an energy weapon with ... a lozenge shaped barrel ... which I now realize is irrelevant. Ace's history would put this in the 2570s. She's with Spacefleet but fought with this irregular army. How does this look?

During the 26th century an irregular army fought Marsh Daleks in the Flova trenches. They brought them down by shooting at the legs with high-impulse carbines. (NA: Lungbarrow)

I was going to put "the Second Dalek War" but I'm not sure how many Dalek wars happened during the 26th century. Unfortunately, it looks like all non-Susan Foreman stories from The Dalek Book occur during a first invasion of the Solar System which happens in the 24th century. [2] I want to put dates but this complicates things.

On another note, Marc Platt acknowledged how ridiculous Marsh Daleks were by pointing out that the Gurnian swamps could have been patrolled by hoverbout. [3] --Nyktimos 21:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)