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::: Using or not using an "s" after an apostrophe is not something we should be trying to write a policy about. This is a bloody Wiki about ''Doctor Who'', not the Oxford Dictionary. Both are acceptable under British English. | ::: Using or not using an "s" after an apostrophe is not something we should be trying to write a policy about. This is a bloody Wiki about ''Doctor Who'', not the Oxford Dictionary. Both are acceptable under British English. | ||
::: Besides, as it stands, if we go with "s" after an apostrophe ''now'', we ''will'' have apostrophes with and without "s" following them, as we've been doing without them as a convention as dictated by policy, so to save on work, how about we just... allow both? <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 18:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC) | ::: Besides, as it stands, if we go with "s" after an apostrophe ''now'', we ''will'' have apostrophes with and without "s" following them, as we've been doing without them as a convention as dictated by policy, so to save on work, how about we just... allow both? <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 18:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::: What's so hard to understand about style guides? They're not restricted to dictionaries, every publisher has one, and ours is a fraction the size of {{w|WP:MOS}}. Since they're inherently aspirational, it doesn't matter whether we meet it today, but it guides us going forwards. I don't see how that can be a bad thing. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 19:07, 16 April 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Dionus' timeship?
There may be a point in the style-guide suggesting this, but it seems fundamentally silly to me that we should propose to go with "Dionus' something" to discuss elements and plot details of a series literally called Dionus's War, with the "S". What do other people think? Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 15:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I proposed a change to the style guide quite some time ago which led to nothing coming of it. If the forums return, I'll definitely be bringing it up again, especially since we have to say "Fitz' noun" when every book I've come across says "Fitz's noun". Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 15:15, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure this is so radical as to necessitate a Forum thread if we can build a consensus on this talk page — particularly if the proposal is to amend the policy with something along the lines of "On this point, default to what stories/titles use if they do use something else than what the guide would prescribe, the guide will just serve as the default if necessary". Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 15:17, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- In which case, I'd support it. I'm always having to go back over what I've written to change "TARDIS's" to "TARDIS'" and the page name of Vera Juarez' brother pains me. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 15:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure this is so radical as to necessitate a Forum thread if we can build a consensus on this talk page — particularly if the proposal is to amend the policy with something along the lines of "On this point, default to what stories/titles use if they do use something else than what the guide would prescribe, the guide will just serve as the default if necessary". Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 15:17, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
I agree about using "s" after the possessive apostrophe, however, I've got a better suggestion on how to implement it:
How about we don't have a rule on this?
Both methods are grammatically correct, and are used interchangeably by people. Why don't we just allow both, regardless of whether or not how a story uses them? Surely the concern of using a "s" after an apostrophe should be the least of this Wiki's concerns?
15:33, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think any concern is too small to warrant a rule for the sake of uniformity. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 16:08, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Using or not using an "s" after an apostrophe is not something we should be trying to write a policy about. This is a bloody Wiki about Doctor Who, not the Oxford Dictionary. Both are acceptable under British English.
- Besides, as it stands, if we go with "s" after an apostrophe now, we will have apostrophes with and without "s" following them, as we've been doing without them as a convention as dictated by policy, so to save on work, how about we just... allow both? 18:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- What's so hard to understand about style guides? They're not restricted to dictionaries, every publisher has one, and ours is a fraction the size of WP:MOS. Since they're inherently aspirational, it doesn't matter whether we meet it today, but it guides us going forwards. I don't see how that can be a bad thing. – n8 (☎) 19:07, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
