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 I like this idea, and support it, but would like to emphasize that [[Devious (fan series)]] should be tagged with {{tlx|fan}} and '''not''' {{tlx|invalid}}, as the latter implies IU pages can be made about it. Also, I think having one long article on fan works might be better than creating [[fan film]]. So basically rename and expand [[fan fiction]] to [[fan work]] or something similar. Or, tbh, it could all still be at [[fan fiction]], because films ''are'' fiction. [[User:Cousin Ettolrhc|Cousin Ettolrahc]] [[User talk:Cousin Ettolrhc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:14, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
+: This one is complicated, with many moving parts that I feel might be controversial. Firstly, I think I support most of the individual proposals without question.
+: ''Time Rift'' is an obvious candidate. I believe that any fan/unofficial work which later influenced a ''Doctor Who Universe'' story should have a page on the wiki. This can be something like a character turning up later in a Short Trips adventure or even, more controversially, the reuse of assets by official productions. ''[[Devious (fan film)]]'' justifies creation simply because the props and sets from the film were used in ''[[The Curse of Fatal Death (TV story)|The Curse of Fatal Death]]''. These should not be fleshed out "covered" story pages in my opinion, they should instead discuss the connections to other covered stories, probably with a plot rundown, but no use for the other detailed sections.
+: ''The Doctor and the Enterprise'' is a whole other discussion I feel. We could cheat in this instance and say that the story might have been influential to ''[[Assimilation² (comic story)|Assimilation²]]'', but if we're going just on the grounds of "This is a historically important fan project," I think it's valid to call that too vague a definition. But I think I do believe that ''The Doctor and the Enterprise'' should have either a page or some mention elsewhere.
+: One thing I feel strongly about is that we need to have more pages like [[Fan fiction]]. In particular, I support the creation of [[Fan films]], not as a complete 100% overview of every ''Who'' fan film ever made but instead as a historical look at how fan films got started. What was the first fan film? Did the franchise's growth in America influence fan film culture? Who was the first female Doctor in a fan film? Things like this could easily be covered on a single page without there being any threat of us fully covering fan film in general. I often feel we need more "real world" pages discussing the fandom's history, because it's one of the areas where our wiki is very lacking.
+: Finally, Fan films where Doctor Who actors reprise their role... This one's weird, because I would love to have this as a resource. But I think many of the people on the wiki who have done fan films featuring a "returning actor" would not agree! It would be less of an issue if 99% of these films were not simply filmed at conventions, meaning getting a returning actor in your fan film is far far easier than you would think. However, I do understand the natural appeal of having that info ''somewhere'' on the internet in one place.
+: Generally, I do agree this is an area where we need to expand our coverage, I am just weary about the extent I suppose. A final note is that I have for a few months been thinking that we need to split [[Template:Invalid]] at least into two pieces - one for stories which are invalid and one for stories which we have ''pages on'' but do not themselves justify coverage on in-universe section (AKA "not covered"). If we end up with a third one for fan works, that's fine, but I do think a NOTCOVERED template would cover that ground. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 19:22, 26 May 2023 (UTC)