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:: Stories doing these sweeping recaps that seem to discount any and all expanded universe stuff that may have happened during that time isn't anything new. Like how ''It Takes You Away'' has Yaz and Ryan talking about the places they've been within series 12 up to that point, in a way that seems to discount stuff like the Titan comics or ''The Wonderful Doctor of Oz''. I think we're just going to have to assume that list of Fourteen's past encounters is not a definitive one. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC) | :: Stories doing these sweeping recaps that seem to discount any and all expanded universe stuff that may have happened during that time isn't anything new. Like how ''It Takes You Away'' has Yaz and Ryan talking about the places they've been within series 12 up to that point, in a way that seems to discount stuff like the Titan comics or ''The Wonderful Doctor of Oz''. I think we're just going to have to assume that list of Fourteen's past encounters is not a definitive one. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC) | ||
: User:WaltK is correct about recaps; unlike this wiki, writers don't abide by the policy of treating every story as equally valid, and thus pick and choose what they consider "canon", usually defaulting to the TV show because it has the largest audience. Hence, characters will usually just recall their television exploits when mentioning what they've been up to. Now that's the Doylist reasoning, but the Watsonian reason can usually be chalked to something as mundane as the characters' prioritising certain adventures, abridging their travels for simplicity or legitimately forgetting on the spot some of their recent exploits, like how the mind can go blank when asked to name a favourite book. A good example is the Eighth Doctor toasting his audio companions at the time in ''The Night of the Doctor''; it doesn't devalue his comic or prose companions, for whatever reason he chose to toast those specific companions (the leading theory is he's remembering their tragic deaths before he faces his own). [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Story placement
Into/Under Control should really be before The Star Beast, seeing as Fourteen thinks about why he has this face during the PROSE Ten Days of Christmas version. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Draxed (talk • contribs) .
- Can you share a short excerpt of the relevant sentence? But idk, The Giggle very definitively lays out Fourteen's battles up to that point and there is not a hint of the Queen of the Sycorax. I don't believe the original annual versions touch on the familiar face — do they?
- But I've a feeling Into/Under Control is going to be a thorn in this timeline's side. 01:20, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Sorry for the odd formatting, still getting used to writing on this site 01:32 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- That's not a problem.
- As for Fourteen's curiosity abour his face, that is compelling evidence. Unless I've missed something in the annual version, it appears that the annual version can take place after The Giggle, but the reprint/adaption cannot. This is rather difficult to place chronologically then. 01:44, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
It could be argued the summary of villains in Rhe Giggle's novelisation is not every one of them, but simply the immediate ones that come to Fourteen's mind. User:Draxed/signature 01:50, 15 December 2023
- Stories doing these sweeping recaps that seem to discount any and all expanded universe stuff that may have happened during that time isn't anything new. Like how It Takes You Away has Yaz and Ryan talking about the places they've been within series 12 up to that point, in a way that seems to discount stuff like the Titan comics or The Wonderful Doctor of Oz. I think we're just going to have to assume that list of Fourteen's past encounters is not a definitive one. WaltK ☎ 02:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- User:WaltK is correct about recaps; unlike this wiki, writers don't abide by the policy of treating every story as equally valid, and thus pick and choose what they consider "canon", usually defaulting to the TV show because it has the largest audience. Hence, characters will usually just recall their television exploits when mentioning what they've been up to. Now that's the Doylist reasoning, but the Watsonian reason can usually be chalked to something as mundane as the characters' prioritising certain adventures, abridging their travels for simplicity or legitimately forgetting on the spot some of their recent exploits, like how the mind can go blank when asked to name a favourite book. A good example is the Eighth Doctor toasting his audio companions at the time in The Night of the Doctor; it doesn't devalue his comic or prose companions, for whatever reason he chose to toast those specific companions (the leading theory is he's remembering their tragic deaths before he faces his own). BananaClownMan ☎ 10:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
