Talk:Twice Upon a Time (TV story)

Regen story

Isn't this the first regeneration story to feature the Doctor interacting with another one of his incarnations? Sure, there are other regeneration stories to show other incarnations of the Doctor, be isn't this the first one where he actually interacts with one of them? JMC Red Dwarf ☎ 18:32, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

No. "The Day of the Doctor" did it too. --DCLM ☎ 18:37, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

In "The Day of the Doctor", regeneration was only briefly seen at the end when the war incarnation regenerated. Isn't this the first time it was the focus of the story? JMC Red Dwarf ☎ 19:02, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

What exactly is a regeneration story? When someone regenerates, when the Doctor specifically regenerates or when he spends a whole episode delaying it? Naturally, it is highly debatable. If the first, then that trivialises the occasion. If the latter, then only two stories (at a stretch) can be classed as regeneration stories (Twice Upon a Time and The End of Time) I personally side with Danniesen ; The Day of the Doctor featured the War Doctor regenerate and he interacted with all the his other incarnations; the middle is indeed the perfect ground to settle on. Snivystorm ☎ 19:09, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

That one had me wondering too, so I looked up the wiki definition at regeneration: "Regeneration was the process by which Time Lords and others renewed themselves, causing a complete physical and often psychological change." So going by that definition, it covers when anyone, even non-Time Lords, regenerates. As far as the category goes, it should cover any story that has regeneration in it; it doesn't have to be a feature of the entire story. Shambala108 ☎ 22:55, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

Regeneration

I've recently noticed that in 10th Planet, we see that the Doctor falls to the floor of the TARDIS only to be found by Ben and Polly and then he regenerates. In Twice, we only see him fall to the floor and regenerate without them. Is this sort of a "rewrite" of the regeneration sequence, or a production error by the BBC/Filming Team/Moffat's script?
P.H. CP ☎ 22:19, March 6, 2018 (UTC)

It's just heavily cut down. In Twice the wide shot is of the Doctor before he is moved by Polly after she enters the TARDIS. --Borisashton ☎ 22:28, March 6, 2018 (UTC)

The "Real" Bill

Before this becomes an edit war, here as some relevant quotes:

• Bill: "Oh, shut up and stop being so stupid. Of course I'm real. What is anyone supposed to be except a bunch of memories? These are my memories, so this is me. I'm Bill Potts, and I'm back, and so long as I'm here, what the hell do you mean, you're not going to regenerate? "
• Bill: "I am the real Bill! A life is just memories. I'm all her memories, so I'm her."
• The Doctor (upon seeing Clara, and calling her by her name): "You're back. You're in my head. All my memories are back."

Now, do we have any quotes (aside from a stubborn Doctor who was proven to be wrong about the Testimony's intentions and nature the whole time) to support they aren't Bill, Clara and Nardole? OncomingStorm12th ☎ 22:41, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Improvements on this episode

Here are ideas how I'd write it:

1. The 12th Doctor reminding the 1st about his future selves, causing him to remember the many Doctor episodes.

2. The 12th Doctor can remind the 1st Doctor of Barbara who saved him from Daleks.

3. Rose Tyler, Sarah J, and Barbara can appear. They can remind the two how their deaths can lend victory to the dark forces. And prevent the Curator, thus dooming Gallifrey.

4. Rose Tyler can call the two Doctors cowards, liars, and promise breakers; and point out the War Doctor proving more self-sacrificing and honourable.

5. The War Doctor (real or memory, or even really the Curator) can remind the 12th how turning a blind eye led to more suffering in the Time War including Cass's death in 'The Night of the Doctor'.

6. It can be reveal Rassilon deceived the 12th Doctor to think Bill dead to push him to suicide so zero can stop him from gaining godhood. The 12th Doctor can be shocked Bill survived and furious Rassilon tricked him.

7. The captain can show respect to the Doctor's she-companions and admit they prove more of a man, and call hismelf a coward sucha s how he screamed on Dalek mutants. But Sarah and Barbara can lecture how tio took coruage to stay on adventures, and mroe to admit errors.