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:@Boblipton:We have ''positive'' proof. We also have a ''lack'' of negative proof. We ''know'' that the Doctor dies--we saw that. We ''also'' know that River was the one to kill him (''Let's Kill Hitler''). Can you prove that wrong? --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 00:09, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
:@Boblipton:We have ''positive'' proof. We also have a ''lack'' of negative proof. We ''know'' that the Doctor dies--we saw that. We ''also'' know that River was the one to kill him (''Let's Kill Hitler''). Can you prove that wrong? --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 00:09, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
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:We know that someone in a spacesuit shot him twice. Everyone thinks it's River. That doesn't mean it is. Ever see a newspaper retraction? [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 00:41, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
:We know that someone in a spacesuit shot him twice. Everyone thinks it's River. That doesn't mean it is. Ever see a newspaper retraction? [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 00:41, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
:So...you're saying that River murdered a man, and everyone is ''mistaken'' when they claim she killed the Doctor, including the Teselecta. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 01:22, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
:So...you're saying that River murdered a man, and everyone is ''mistaken'' when they claim she killed the Doctor, including the Teselecta. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 01:22, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
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:No.  I'm not saying that. But given the evidence we have, including eye witnesses, a good lawyer could get her off. But that's not the gist of my point.  Attend, please.  I am not saying she didn't kill the Doctor.  I'm saying that the evidence we need to put it on the page is not present. This keeps getting said again and again and we keep getting it wrong.  How much of your time did you spend correcting false 'information' concerning the Silence being a species?  I know that I rewrote the section on the Doctor teaching River how to fly the TARDIS in light of the last episode.  Such gaffes  will happen from time to time anyway, but it is the official policy of this wiki that we depend on what we see onscreen. Did you see Sydney Wade's face at Lake Silencio? I didn't. Until we do, or the face of someone credited onscreen as River Song or Melody Pond or whatever she's called, then it is not a fact.  It's speculation. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 01:47, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 01:47, 1 September 2011

Spoiler

The Doctor finds out he will die at Lake Silencio. (DW: Let's Kill Hitler)

It isn't a spoiler, the name of the lake is revealed, in Let's Kill Hitler, when the Doctor finds out he's going to die. --MrThermomanPreacher 15:49, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Restored.--Skittles the hog - talk 16:13, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

The page has been deleted again, this time without a reason why. Could Mini-Mitch please explain why he deleted this page? --Bold Clone 14:56, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Because it's a lake, that's all we know. People keep on adding "River Song killed the Doctor here", which we have no proof of. So i deleted it to stop the mindless speculation being added. MM/Want to talk? 14:59, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Restored the page. You can't delete a page just because it is vandalised.--Skittles the hog - talk 15:06, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

@MM:It's a lake, that's all we know. Therefore, we need to create a page to place that info on.
@MM:River is confirmed to kill the Doctor. The death of the Doctor is a fixed point in time and space. So we know that the Doctor will die; we also know that River Song will kill him. Since the Doctor was killed at the lake, we therefore know that River killed (will kill) the Doctor at this lake. We have proof that River will kill the Doctor at the lake, and it is mindless to remove that correct information.
@StH: Thanks for the restoration. :) --Bold Clone 15:08, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

River?

What proof does anyone have that River Song was not the astronaut? The astronaut killed the Doctor at the Lake--FACT. We know that River killed the Doctor--FACT. Therefore, River is the astronaut that killed the Doctor--FACT. What "proof" is there otherwise? --Bold Clone 15:24, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Lack of negative oproof is not the same as positive proof.Boblipton 15:36, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I would rather wait for more on screen evidence until you make a conclusion.--Skittles the hog - talk 15:38, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
@Boblipton:We have positive proof. We also have a lack of negative proof. We know that the Doctor dies--we saw that. We also know that River was the one to kill him (Let's Kill Hitler). Can you prove that wrong? --Bold Clone 00:09, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
We know that someone in a spacesuit shot him twice. Everyone thinks it's River. That doesn't mean it is. Ever see a newspaper retraction? Boblipton 00:41, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
So...you're saying that River murdered a man, and everyone is mistaken when they claim she killed the Doctor, including the Teselecta. --Bold Clone 01:22, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
No. I'm not saying that. But given the evidence we have, including eye witnesses, a good lawyer could get her off. But that's not the gist of my point. Attend, please. I am not saying she didn't kill the Doctor. I'm saying that the evidence we need to put it on the page is not present. This keeps getting said again and again and we keep getting it wrong. How much of your time did you spend correcting false 'information' concerning the Silence being a species? I know that I rewrote the section on the Doctor teaching River how to fly the TARDIS in light of the last episode. Such gaffes will happen from time to time anyway, but it is the official policy of this wiki that we depend on what we see onscreen. Did you see Sydney Wade's face at Lake Silencio? I didn't. Until we do, or the face of someone credited onscreen as River Song or Melody Pond or whatever she's called, then it is not a fact. It's speculation. Boblipton 01:47, September 1, 2011 (UTC)