Talk:The Master

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Soon to be unlocked, but don't change section heads please

As noted at Forum:The Master - 1 article#Closing, we're close to restoring this article to a normal state in which people can more or less freely edit it. References to individual incarnations shall now be done through the following templates:

• Template:Delgado
• Template:Ainley
• Template:Roberts
• Template:Jacobi
• Template:Simm
• Template:Fallen
• Template:Macqueen
• Template:Gomez
• Template:Pratt
• Template:Dreyfus
• Template:Dhawan
• Template:Tipple
• Template:Titan
• Template:McKee
• Template:Pryce
• Template:Merlin

More will be added automatically to this list as they are created. Click on any of these for usage details, but basically the way we'll now connect to this page is to write something like this:

The [[Fourth Doctor]] faced his final challenge: a confrontation with {{Ainley}} atop the [[radio telescope]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[Logopolis (TV story)|]]''

which yields:

The Fourth Doctor faced his final challenge: a confrontation with the Tremas Master atop the radio telescope. (TV: Logopolis)

If you need to make the the capitalised, then type {{Ainley|c}}. These links, be they {{delgado}}, {{Ainley}} or whoever will go directly to the section of this article dealing with that version of the character.

It is therefore extremely important that you do not alter the section headers on this article at all. Change what you want about the text, but please leave the section titles as they are.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  16:39: Sat 17 Nov 2012

Trail of the White Worm/Oseidon Adventure

Just thought i'd mention that this story takes place in the year 1979 not 1976, it's on the cover blurb and mentioned in the story. Cheers :-D 82.26.212.148^{talk to me} 10:23, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

P.S Article is looking good!82.26.212.148^{talk to me} 10:26, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Can i bump this? I just took a look at the back cover and it definately says 1979. Bruce96 ☎ 12:35, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well the article is freely editable now. However, please be mindful of the fact that back cover blurbs are not valid sources. What counts is the actual narrative itself. If you can confirm, by listening to the narrative, that the year is 1979, by all means please change the article.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  18:57: Tue 11 Dec 2012

In-universe block-thing

Gotta say, not a big fan of the huge-annoying-page-breaking-space-taking-in-universe-1990's box. Mainly because it, well, is a huge-annoying-page-breaking-space-taking box. Also it fails to reference Destiny of the Doctors, which annoys me. I don't think the box is really needed, and if it is, then it really doesn't need to be that huge. Also no one has messed with this page or the links in weeks, why is it still locked? OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 01:46, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so looking back, it's not as bad as I thought. However, a note on your new block at the Master... You can't really say "the Big Finish audios" because the Terserus Master appeared in the recent Fourth Doctor series as well (Trail of the White Worm (audio story)...) OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 01:56, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

So you went from hating to kinda liking the sidebar in 10 minutes flat? Colour me confused. User:Shambala108 seemed to rather like it, so I'll be leaving that one in. As for the "It's all about Delgado" block, it's absolutely fair to say that "the Big Finish Master" is always what you're calling the "Tersurus Master", but is in fact just a degenerated form of Delgado. No matter what audio you're talking about, it's always Beevers playing essentially the Keeper of Traken guy.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  02:03: Tue 11 Dec 2012

{{{voice actor}}} variable

I note that the {{{voice actor}}} variable was changed away from Geoffrey Beevers to be Alex Macqueen, with a reasonable interpretation of the variable given in the page history. However, although I understand that reason, it's important to point out a feature of the {{Infobox Individual}} that was not there at launch, but has been there for many months. There's {{{voice actor}}}, which displays as "main voice actor" and {{{other voice actor}}}, which displays as "other voice actors".

In the case of most Time Lords, we've generally opted, by virtue of forum discussion, not to fill in any actor information. This is because we can generally leave the actor stuff to the individual incarnation pages. So we do not want these variables used at all on the Doctor or Romana, for instance.

However, since we've decided to put everything about the Master on one page, there's a need for the infobox to actually include the various actors. In this case — or indeed in the case of any character played by multiple actors — {{{voice actor}}} means what it says on the tin: "main voice actor", i.e., "the one who's performed the role more times than anyone else". {{{other voice actor}}} can then be used for people who are additionally heard on audio in this part.

In the case of Fourth Doctor, there's no need for the {{{voice actor}}} variable at all, because the main voice actor is the same as the main televisual actor. Here, though, it's not so straightforward — and, one could argue, it's not at all clear that the relatively minor televisual actor Geoffrey Beevers would have become the main audio actor.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  19:08: Tue 11 Dec 2012