Howling:My Problem with Twelfth Doctor
Somethings bothering me. In the original timeline, the eleventh doctor died on Trenzalore and the time lords never gave him more regenerations. However what happened to all the evil that still needed fought? All of the adventures and enemies the twelfth doctor onwards will face was never defeated/done in the original timeline. So what happened? Was there no evil? Did someone else start defending the universe? Did the universe become a darker place without the doctor? Obviously all this peril will be stopped by the twelfth doctor and later ones but again, what if he wasn't there? What would happen? The same can be said for if the first doctor never left gallifrey. A cosmos without the doctor scarcely bears thinking about....--Coop3 ☎ 19:39, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
I see the problem but the only answer I can give is that we don't know. This hasn't been shown & I doubt that it will ever be shown. --89.241.211.67talk to me 11:23, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
I think there was a parallel universe where the doctor didn't leave Gallifray, and everything was terrible. I think the doctors death may have the same affect, but remember: time travel. While the doctor was dead on trenzalore, there would still be past versions of him running around. Many of the doctors adventures are never told, so It could be possible in that timeline, the 3rd doctor could be fighting daleks on one corner of the universe, while the 10th was fighting autons. In fact, the doctor could already be buried some where in the normal timeline. {{SUBST:User:Dragonofelder/Sig|17:02,3/22/2014}}
There are so many paradoxes at this point, I don't think it's worth getting hung up on them. You can make the case that if the Doctor hadn't left Gallifrey, the universe would've (paradoxically) been destroyed numerous times. The events of Logopolis and Journey's End are just two examples. Of course, you could also argue that the universe was only under threat in those cases because of the Doctor's actions. It's difficult to say for sure. You could even question if the universe would exist in the first place if he hadn't left Gallifrey (see Terminus and The Big Bang). It's true that some paradoxes are bigger than others but you'll drive yourself mad if you try to make sense of all of them. Slughorn42 ☎ 17:14, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
