Talk:Eleventh Doctor

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Main Image Change

I want to change the main image for the Eleventh Doctor's page. Can I do that? I've uploaded the image that I would use. King of the Sandmen ☎ 14:25, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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  Current image (#1).

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  User:King of the Sandmen's proposal (#2).

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  Crop with bowtie (#3).

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  Even tighter crop. (#4)

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  WC: The Bells of Saint John: A Prequel. (#5)

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  With fez, from TV: Day of the Doctor. (#6)

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  "Knowingsmile" from TV: Day of the Doctor. (#7)

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  Kind, genial smile in TV: Vincent and the Doctor. (#8)

There has to be a discussion first with big pages like this, and an admin has to give a final ruling. I (not an admin) like the new picture better (it shows the Doctor's distinctive hairstyle better and there is no mood lighting), but it will probably have to be cropped a bit. LauraBatham ☎ 14:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes — discussion is needed before anybody (even an admin) can change the infobox image of one of the TV Doctors. But I think in this case it is a discussion worth having. The current image runs contrary to T:GTI's best practices, which advise one to avoid overly stark/unnatural lighting. King's proposal is much better, but does need to be cropped severely.

I've created a gallery presenting two potential crops. Although the tightest is the one that policy would recommend by default, I think it's worth discussing, in a special case like the Eleventh Doctor, whether it's worth settling for the slightly wider (but still acceptable) crop of #3, which allows us to see a bit of the iconic bow tie.

Thoughts? Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 14:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I agree. Image #3 seems like the more preferable option. LauraBatham ☎ 14:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Same. I like the cropped one with the bow tie. King of the Sandmen ☎ 14:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Good, good! That being said, I don't want this to be just a choice between the overly contrasted current image and the Closing Time one. It's not often we change a TV Doctor's infobox image, so I figured I'd put a few more options on the table. I've added four new images. Where possible I've done the same thing of cropping them widely enough to retain the bowtie, but of course, any of those could be cropped more tightly if we want. Personally I'd be partial to #8, which I think best embodies the "spirit" of the Eleventh Doctor, and has a nice contrast between the face and the background. But any of those would, I think, be acceptable, and all of them would be superior to the current image. Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 15:08, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

While I also like #8, I think it might be a bit too goofy (particularly 11's eyes). I'd say #7 would be my pick, as I think it sums up 11 throughout his tenure best. King of the Sandmen ☎ 15:21, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I personally like #8 most as it has a clear view of his face, a close crop, good lighting and shows the bow tie. My second choice would be #5 which has a clear view of his face, a close crop, good lighting and (in my opinion) better hair. However, #5 doesn't show the bowtie. It's also not from a standard episode which, while fine by me, may be confusing to newer users wondering where the image is from. I'm also quite partial to #6 as it shows the fez although this does hide his hair. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎ 15:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

5>7>8>6>4/3 Number 8 is lovely, but it's from Series 5 and his hair and hwatnot don't really cement themselves until the beginning of Series 6. #5 gives us a good compromise in terms of look, he's got his Series 6-7A outfit on (which is a perfected version of Series 5's outfit) and his hair is the lok he has from Series 6 forward. NoNotTheMemes ☎ 17:06, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I still like #3, but #7 is also pretty good. I don't really like #6, purely because it hides his hair and exaggerates his forehead, and while #5 is good, it seems a little blurry.LauraBatham ☎ 02:26, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I just need to point out that none of these images are cropped enough, with the exception of the current page image (and maybe #4). Please see our guidelines at Tardis:Guide to images for what we're looking for in an infobox image before posting any more choices thanks. Shambala108 ☎ 03:04, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I reckon we could probably crop #7 and #8 a bit more and they would still be okay. Though we would unfortunately lose the bowtie. LauraBatham ☎ 03:09, 8 May 2021 (UTC)