User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-121.45.54.78-20130925110520/@comment-24048868-20200602003612

In the interests of furthering discussion, I have attempted to create a table here which covers all of the cases described in this thread. If there are any cases not covered here, or which should be split on the table, I will edit the table.

The idea here is to ensure we have come to a decision for each case. I have attempted to fill in the cases which we have already come to a conclusion, but I may have missed some out, or may have come to a controversial conclusion. Please not that the table is currently only my current interpretation of the thread. Once we have the table filled out, up to date, and all-encompassing, the table will more fully represent the thread, and we can discuss each case separately, eventually allowing for a clear indication of conclusion of the thread.

I have also continued to use the dichotomy of "appearances list" versus "references", however this will obviously need to be further discussed as to whether we call the page "references", "mentions", something else altogether, or indeed if they deserve their own page at all. It is possible that the references section in the main article is sufficient in most cases. I don't think there is any case where the existence of a separate page for references influences whether or not it appears in the list of appearances.

Finally, in the table I consistently use the word "character", but this is interchangeable with any relevant appearances page. I have also excluded one-off cases, such as Petronella Osgood, which can be examined on separate threads or talk pages. I hope the table is helpful to the discussion!

#	Description	Type	Applies to	e.g.
1. General appearances
1.1	The obvious case when the character appears	Appearances list	Most appearances
1.2	Re-used footage or audio in a new context		Video, Audio	TV: The Day of the Doctor
1.3	Character speaks, but is off-frame/off-camera		Video, comic
1.4	Character is present without being heard		Non-narrated Audio	Missy's vortex manipulator in AUDIO: Day of the Master
1.5	Character is in the scene, but is never heard or present.		All media	A Rutan ship in AUDIO: Heroes of Sontar
1.6	Video or audio footage seen on a screen depicting in-universe "past events"			Daleks in TV: The War Games
1.7	Retro-regeneration	Appearances list	Mostly comics	COMIC: The Fountains of Forever
1.8	Corpses		All media	Andred in AUDIO: Imperiatrix
2. Memories and flashbacks
2.1	Newly filmed, recorded, drawn, or written scenes	Appearances list	All media
2.2	Recreation of an existing scene			TV: Twice Upon a Time
2.3	Re-use of existing footage/audio/comic frames/paragraphs	References		TV: Logopolis
2.4	Hallucinations and dreams (new footage)		All media	TV: Arachnids in the UK
2.5	memories which are images and provide no new information		Comics (I think)	Thread:197933
2.6.1	Stories-within-stories - told by a character in dialogue		Prose, narrated audio	Probably quite a few, such as Companion Chronicles
2.6.2	Flashbacks in real time		Prose	PROSE: Bernice Summerfield and the Imaginary Example (Scrooge's next post)
2.7	First person storytelling of past events		Prose, narrated audio	The Companion Chronicles not included in 2.6.1
3. Images
3.1	Photographs, images, and physical depictions such as statues	References	All media	TV: The Pilot
3.2	Still holograms that don't speak or act			TV: Let's Kill Hitler
3.3	Artificially constructed holograms			Amy in TV: Let's Kill Hitler
3.4	Holographic recordings	See: 1.6		The Ninth Doctor in TV: The Parting of the Ways
3.5	Impostors using the image of a character			TV: It Takes You Away
3.6	Illusions created to trick other characters			Adric in TV: Time-Flight
4. Retcons
4.1	Retcons removing an appearance and was planned right from the start		All media
4.2	Retcons by unrelated stories removing an appearance			PROSE: The Lying Old Witch in the Wardrobe
4.3	Retcons by later stories adding an appearance in a previous story