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 :: In fact the official bbc eBay listing for the doctor’s outfit and the script describes The Naked Truth as a “special episode of Doctor Who“ https://web.archive.org/web/20111124080952/https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Doctor-Whos-outfit-and-signed-script-/230703619118 rule 4 internet right there. [[Special:Contributions/81.106.187.1|81.106.187.1]]<sup>[[User talk:81.106.187.1#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
+:::I don't think anyone here has suggested that breaking the fourth wall -> not in the DWU. Memes has listed ''procedural concerns'' that I've agreed with, and the went on to detail some stories that he thinks ''should be valid'' and ''shouldn't be'' based on more than just "well they break the fourth wall". SOTO has said they agree with Memes, but that could be just the procedural issues or the entire list of stories. If you really insist, I think:
+*''The Naked Truth''
+*''The Doctor needs YOUR help!''
+*''Message from the Doctor''
+Should be valid. Yes the first two are calls for charity, but that's not disqualifying, the idea that The Doctor is given time on TV isn't absurd in the DWU. (I note that in the first he's auctioning his ''clothes'', not his ''costume''.)
+*''BAFTA in the TARDIS''
+*''United we stand, 2m apart''
+*''A New Year's message from the Doctor...''
+Should all be invalid. I can't see how you watch the first and come away thinking it's in the DWU. "It's an award. For acting. [...] Wish me luck. /she leaves/" This isn't a wink at the fourth wall, it's simply disregarding it. The other two aren't meaningfully in character. They feature Whittaker in costume, and that's it. I can't comment on the others. Now can we put to bed the idea that people are objecting to the notion of fourth wall breaks ''in general''? Nobody has done that. This is an imagined opponent. What exists is concerns about the overall procedure here and these ''specific'' stories. And the specific stories people are concerned about vary between editors! [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:21, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
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