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 ::The bolded assessment, posed as "[not] ''quite'' a Proper Admin Conclusion", was subsequently ratified by community consensus. However, Scrooge's new decision here indicates that [[Thirteenth Doctor's forced regeneration]] wasn't a workable match for the plan laid out in October. It's now been merged into [[The Master's Dalek Plan]], which sits in neither [[:Category:The Doctor]] nor [[:Category:The Master]]. In other words, no page currently meets the conditions required by community consensus in the earlier discussion. Therefore [[T:BOUND]] mandates that a new page be created to meet those conditions. Thankfully, the script release has given us a much clearer page name: [[The Master-Doctor]], a new identity/entity page akin to [[Harold Saxon]], [[Bad Wolf (entity)]], and [[The DoctorDonna]]. I'm tempted to create this page myself per the age-old wiki mandate to {{w|WP:JUSTDOIT|"Be bold"}}, but for the sake of my ongoing [[Tardis:User rights nominations|admin nomination]] and potential adminship, I'll merely leave this comment as an invitation for someone else to pick up the torch. May [[The Master-Doctor]]'s days be long and untroubled! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 19:26, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
+I think this is probably [[T:BOUND]]-kosher, though I remain of two minds about the proposal on the merits, so yes, let's discuss it.
+h, the forced-regeneration scheme; will we ever see the end of it… We considering covering the Master-Doctor as an incarnation of the Doctor — but that made no sense. We considered covering him as an incarnation of the Master — but that falls afoul of the "we don't have two Jodie Whittaker Doctor pages" of it all, and the Crispy reversions. We considered covering him as an event — but the event is coterminous with [[the Master's Dalek Plan]] as a whole.
+If he's neither individual nor event, does covering him as an ''alias'' finally square the circle? That is the question we face today. To which I say: hmm. Hmmmm. Well, ''maybe''. The issue is that the "alias" isn't [[The Master-Doctor]]; it's "The Doctor". Script names ''are'' okay, but we must be careful about not assuming too much about the in-universe grounding of names thusly derived. [[The Master-Doctor]] threatened Yaz" is fine; but "'''the Master-Doctor''' was the alias adopted by the Spy Master when he…" isn't quite right, and even "As '''the Master-Doctor''', the Spy Master…" is misleading. One really wishes [[The Doctor (The Power of the Doctor)]] were less of a non-starter. How ''do'' we write this blighter's ''lede''?
+(My entirely unjustifiable gut instinct is to wait until an in-universe source (probably one of those reference book thingummies…) directly uses "the Master-Doctor" in-text in a citable way.) [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 19:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)