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This really takes the cake. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 11:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
This really takes the cake. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 11:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
::To elaborate briefly, in light of the [[:Category:The Doctor's regenerations|mature ecosystem]] of regeneration pages, I'm tempted to recreate [[Thirteenth Doctor's forced regeneration]] per [[T:WIKIFY]] alone. But I won't, because it goes deeper than that. To answer one closing statement with [[Talk:The Master/Archive 8#Towards a compromise|another]],
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::: There is significant sentiment that the "Dhawan Doctor"'s history, appearance and significance should be discussed on their own page, separately from our coverage of the [[Spy Master]] and the [[Thirteenth Doctor]]. However, there is also significant sentiment that it would be wrong to characterise him as a ''person'' separate from the Spy Master, or as ''precisely'' "an incarnation of [[the Doctor]]". I am not here to litigate which sentiment is correct on the latter front: I don't think we all will ''ever'' reach a consensus on that without further evidence. We could be here all week arguing about whether the Doctor-Master is more like [[the DoctorDonna]] or more like the [[Tenth Doctor (Journey's End)|Metacrisis Doctor]] and we would, in all likelihood, still get nowhere.
::: Instead, I propose that, in line with something like [[Bad Wolf (entity)]] or pages about aliases like [[Harold Saxon]], we create '''a page describing the nature and short existence of the Dhawan-Doctor-Master entity, structured as a page about a phenomenon more than a page about a character. It should not use {{tlx|Infobox Individual}}, and will be placed in neither [[:Category:Incarnations of the Doctor]] ''nor'' an eventual [[:Category:Incarnations of the Master]], but it ''will'' be placed in [[:Category:The Doctor]] and [[:Category:The Master]]. Both [[Thirteenth Doctor]] and [[Spy Master]] should summarise the events surrounding the Dhawan-Doctor-Master in similar, sparse details, and use a {{tlx|main}} template to the page about the incident, similar to links to [[Exile on Earth]] or [[The Master's early life]].''' […] I no longer believe that covering it at [[The Master's Dalek Plan]] is the right move; the plan has too many moving parts not really directly relevant to the entity itself. I am tempted by the name [[Thirteenth Doctor's forced regeneration]], which could describe both the incident ''and'' the "individual" depending on how you look at it. <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 19:38, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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::The bolded assessment, posed as "[not] ''quite'' a Proper Admin Conclusion", was subsequently ratified by community consensus. However, Scrooge's new decision here indicates that [[Thirteenth Doctor's forced regeneration]] wasn't a workable match for the plan laid out in October. It's now been merged into [[The Master's Dalek Plan]], which sits in neither [[:Category:The Doctor]] nor [[:Category:The Master]]. In other words, no page currently meets the conditions required by community consensus in the earlier discussion. Therefore [[T:BOUND]] mandates that a new page be created to meet those conditions. Thankfully, the script release has given us a much clearer page name: [[The Master-Doctor]], a new identity/entity page akin to [[Harold Saxon]], [[Bad Wolf (entity)]], and [[The DoctorDonna]]. I'm tempted to create this page myself per the age-old wiki mandate to {{w|WP:JUSTDOIT|"Be bold"}}, but for the sake of my ongoing [[Tardis:User rights nominations|admin nomination]] and potential adminship, I'll merely leave this comment as an invitation for someone else to pick up the torch. May [[The Master-Doctor]]'s days be long and untroubled! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 19:26, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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