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: Then go edit the article on the [[Laws of Time]], every section of the article directly contradicts your "anything goes" theory. Moreover, you are going on a forum asking people to agree...ahem, "understand"... a "theory" that contradicts everything shown on screen and all sense of logic and rationality and when pretty much everyone sees the flaws and point it out to you, you don't address any of the flaws and just say that your rationale is that "anything goes"...you probably should reconsider whether it is appropriate material for a dicussion forum... | : Then go edit the article on the [[Laws of Time]], every section of the article directly contradicts your "anything goes" theory. Moreover, you are going on a forum asking people to agree...ahem, "understand"... a "theory" that contradicts everything shown on screen and all sense of logic and rationality and when pretty much everyone sees the flaws and point it out to you, you don't address any of the flaws and just say that your rationale is that "anything goes"...you probably should reconsider whether it is appropriate material for a dicussion forum... | ||
: If you go on like this, the forum will be soon be filled with infinite amount of threads asking people to agree...ahem, "understands"...irrational theories that directly contradict the articles/show/other materials...this place will be turned into a collection of spams...--[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.122|222.166.181.122]] 13:23, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | : If you go on like this, the forum will be soon be filled with infinite amount of threads asking people to agree...ahem, "understands"...irrational theories that directly contradict the articles/show/other materials...this place will be turned into a collection of spams...--[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.122|222.166.181.122]] 13:23, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Time travel to parallel worlds now is impossible... oh... it happened... and again... and again? Yes they gave explanations for it, so I'm pretty sure they could do the same for this. | ::Time travel to parallel worlds now is impossible... oh... it happened... and again... and again? Yes they gave explanations for it, so I'm pretty sure they could do the same for this. | ||
::And I believe that the Doctor could visit the Year that Never Was if he so desired. If he went back to the moment that the Tocclafane arrived and lived through it linearly... then he would be visiting it... at the end of the year, unless he was on board the valiant, he would have his memory removed and would be returned to where he was before the tocclafane arrived. | ::And I believe that the Doctor could visit the Year that Never Was if he so desired. If he went back to the moment that the Tocclafane arrived and lived through it linearly... then he would be visiting it... at the end of the year, unless he was on board the valiant, he would have his memory removed and would be returned to where he was before the tocclafane arrived. | ||
::And you're argument that he couldn't visit the YTNW is completely contradicted by your earlier points. That only changed the future, ie created a fork in the timeline... it didn't change the past like in the Big Bang, just the future... which is a different timeline model. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 13:56, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ::And you're argument that he couldn't visit the YTNW is completely contradicted by your earlier points. That only changed the future, ie created a fork in the timeline... it didn't change the past like in the Big Bang, just the future... which is a different timeline model. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 13:56, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::1. You were saying that the Doctor travelled to an alternate timeline by the TARDIS deliberately, not by an accident...so are you now changing it to say it may be an accident? You'll have to change your entire scenario to accomodate for this change and not just say that "it may be an accident" | |||
::2. (The point about getting to the moment where Toclafanes arrive is actually flawed as they no longer arrived, but we'll ignore this for now to help you see how the scenario you described has nothing to do with it) That scenario is not travelling to the timeline, that is creating the timeline and living through it...It is completely unrelated to what you said...If you want to use that model, you'll have to adjust your theory into saying that the Doctor travelled back to before Amy's wedding on a timeline where he exists and deliberately blow up the TARDIS to cause a explosion and erase his own existence and have River live through it...This is completely different from what you have described. | |||
::3. If you think it is forked timeline then you need to explain the following: | |||
:: a. Are all past incarnations of the Doctor now gone, and the Doctor's personal timeline starts from Amy's wedding? If it's not, then it's not a fork timeline because the Doctor existing in the past and the Doctor not existing in the past would be 2 separate timelines. | |||
:: b. If it is a fork timeline, then why would the texts on the book be gone? Since the Doctor starts existing from the wedding, time travelling to the past or any point before his existence would not interrupt his existence. To say that it does would mean that the Doctor would just suddenly fade out of existence if he travelled to any point in time before the wedding. | |||
::I hope this helps you to understand the simple concepts...because everyone else pretty much already got it since the beginning... --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.110|222.166.181.110]] 14:41, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
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