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::1. You were saying that the Doctor travelled to an alternate timeline by the TARDIS deliberately, not by an accident...so are you now changing it to say it may be an accident? | ::1. You were saying that the Doctor travelled to an alternate timeline by the TARDIS deliberately, not by an accident...so are you now changing it to say it may be an accident? You'll have to change your entire scenario to accomodate for this change and not just say that "it may be an accident" | ||
::2. (The point about getting to the moment where Toclafanes arrive is actually flawed as they no longer arrived, but we'll ignore this for now to help you see how the scenario you described has nothing to do with it) That scenario is not travelling to the timeline, that is creating the timeline and living through it...It is completely unrelated to what you said...If you want to use that model, you'll have to adjust your theory into saying that the Doctor travelled back to before Amy's wedding on a timeline where he exists and deliberately blow up the TARDIS to cause a explosion and erase his own existence and have River live through it...This is completely different from what you have described. | ::2. (The point about getting to the moment where Toclafanes arrive is actually flawed as they no longer arrived, but we'll ignore this for now to help you see how the scenario you described has nothing to do with it) That scenario is not travelling to the timeline, that is creating the timeline and living through it...It is completely unrelated to what you said...If you want to use that model, you'll have to adjust your theory into saying that the Doctor travelled back to before Amy's wedding on a timeline where he exists and deliberately blow up the TARDIS to cause a explosion and erase his own existence and have River live through it...This is completely different from what you have described. | ||
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::3. If you think it is forked timeline then you need to explain the following: | ::3. If you think it is forked timeline then you need to explain the following: | ||
:: a. Are all past incarnations of the Doctor now gone, and the Doctor's personal timeline starts from Amy's wedding? | :: a. Are all past incarnations of the Doctor now gone, and the Doctor's personal timeline starts from Amy's wedding? If it's not, then it's not a fork timeline because the Doctor existing in the past and the Doctor not existing in the past would be 2 separate timelines. | ||
:: b. If it is a fork timeline, then why would the texts on the book be gone? | :: b. If it is a fork timeline, then why would the texts on the book be gone? Since the Doctor starts existing from the wedding, time travelling to the past or any point before his existence would not interrupt his existence. To say that it does would mean that the Doctor would just suddenly fade out of existence if he travelled to any point in time before the wedding. | ||
::I hope this helps you to understand the simple concepts...because everyone else pretty much already got it since the beginning... --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.110|222.166.181.110]] 14:41, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ::I hope this helps you to understand the simple concepts...because everyone else pretty much already got it since the beginning... --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.110|222.166.181.110]] 14:41, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:: | :::1. I've never said he did it deliberately... just that he dropped River off there. | ||
:::2. They only no longer arrived due to time being reversed... but ''after'' it had happened. | |||
:: | :::3. Did you read my post? I was talking about the YTNW. '''IT''' was a forked timeline. | ||
::::Look. My very original point in the River Rory forum was the fact that we don't know where River came from at the end of the Big Bang. If by then she had already lived through the series 6 events having known Rory, it must have been after the Pandorica Opens but before the wedding. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 15:09, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
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