Talk:John and Gillian

Separate pages

I came across this page a few times, but never read anything on the subject: why isn't there separate pages for John and Gillian? Considering they are two different beings, shouldn't they have pages for their own? They appear on quite a few stories, so there should (I assume) be enough content for making them separate. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 20:42, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

There have been forum decisions in the past that ruled they should be on the same page. (Not that I'm necessarily agreeing with the decision; if we have two separate pages for the City of Death art lovers, who barely appear, why do two companions have to be combined?) The decisions are at Forum:John and Gillian and Forum:Split John and Gillian. This issue can only be reopened at the Panopticon if there is new information to be considered; otherwise, we stick with the forum decisions. Shambala108 ☎ 22:44, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

For the sake of future reference, a lot of the decision took place on Talk:John (comic strips). I would be very interested in seeing these split into John Who and Gillian (The Klepton Parasites), though I acknowledge their are some solid reasons for their continued joint existence. – N8 ☎ 02:23, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Referenced in the 2012 comics?

The thirteenth issue of the 2012 IDW Doctor Who comic has the Eleventh Doctor and Clara discuss Angie and Artie and their opinions on whether the Doctor and Clara are dating. To this, the Doctor replies, and I quote: "And that's why you shouldn't travel with children. I made that mistake with another pair a long time ago. Years of ‘are we there yet?’ and ‘whoops, I accidentally pushed the big red button’. This seems to me to be a reference to John and Gillian, and how their travels with the Doctor started. Is there anything else it could refer to, or is it good enough (despite the lack of names) to add to the page?--Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 19:35, September 22, 2018 (UTC)

It's a given with DW that writers can and do write anything. Therefore, we do not allow speculation that unnamed characters must be ones that we are familiar with. Shambala108 ☎ 01:38, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Splitting the page and deletion tag

Per Thread:275976 these characters have been split into two pages: John Who and Gillian Who. All info from this page has been moved to these two pages; however, there are still articles that link here that need to be changed to link to the two individual pages instead. This article will not be deleted until that part of the project is finished. Shambala108 ☎ 03:58, July 3, 2020 (UTC)

I should be able to get around to doing it tomorrow, if someone else doesn't beaten me to it. In the meantime, Template:Companions of the Fifth Doctor and Template:Companions of the Second Doctor comprise a sizeable chunk of the links - every companion with those templates shows up in Special:WhatLinksHere/John and Gillian - and can only be edited by admins. Danochy ☎ 04:21, July 3, 2020 (UTC)

I changed the links in Template:Companions of the Second Doctor, Template:Second Doctor TVC comics and Template:Companions of the First Doctor. Shambala108 ☎ 04:54, July 3, 2020 (UTC)

Also before I forget, any links from talk pages and forum threads will be done by admins as it is against Tardis:Vandalism policy for non-admins to change talk/forum posts. Shambala108 ☎ 04:57, July 3, 2020 (UTC)

Alright, I've changed all the links I could. The pages left in Special:WhatLinksHere/John and Gillian are either pages which haven't been edited since the template was updated (and so still register as having the link on the page) and pages which I couldn't edit (forums, talk pages, etc.). I also haven't changed John and Gillian - list of appearances as I'm not sure whether that page will be renamed or removed. Danochy ☎ 00:45, July 6, 2020 (UTC)