Talk:Dinosaurs on a Spaceship (TV story)

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Companions

I've added Brian, Nefertiti, and John Riddell to the "companions" list. I have mutliple reasons why:

  1. The Doctor states that they are all in his "group," meaning he almost strait out calls them companions.
  2. They all fit the requirements for companions. They travelled with him just as much as Adelaide Brooke or Christina de Souza did.
  3. Brian, in perticular, is shown to have gone on futher adventures with the Doctor afterwards (In the form of a postcard)
  4. John Riddell states that he has met the Doctor before.
  5. Nefertiti travelled in the TARDIS willingly with the Doctor, no diffrent from anyone else who snuck aboard, like Zoe Heriot.
  6. They are no less companions then Adelaide Brooke or Christina de Souza.
  7. I said that one twice becuase it was important.

if anyone disagrees, we can discuss it here. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 01:05, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

  1. Being part of a group does not make you a companion, IMO. Being a companion implies a longer-term relationship than a single adventure.
  2. I still contest Brooke or de Souza being companions. I know that the BBC calls them companions, but we don't have an in-universe source confirming that. De Souza never even stepped in the TARDIS--some companion. Brooke didn't travel with the Doctor; he just took her on a single trip to rescue her life.
  3. You have a good point with Brian further travelling with the Doctor, although it seems more like sight-seeing than saving the day with the Doctor. And do we know for sure he was with the Doctor, instead of travelling by himself?
  4. Riddell is an adventurer--a "companion" who doesn't travel with the Doctor, but shares an adventure with him, like Brooke or de Souza.
  5. Again, Nefertiti is an adventurer.
  6. Again, Brooke and de Souza are not companions.
  7. I would actually advocate using or coming up with terms to clarify "companions" like Riddell, Nefertiti, Brooke, and de Souza. We already distinguish between single-adventure, short-term, and long-term companions. So why not use a different term to describe people who share adventures with the Doctor, without necessarily travelling with him? --Bold Clone 02:16, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
In at least one of the postcards, the TARDIS is present. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 02:31, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
It's a drawing though, not a photo. He could have sent it as a joke. --Bold Clone 02:41, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
Well actually, it was a photoshopped image of the 9th/10th's TARDIS, which I assume is to say that Rory's dad travelled with the Doctor for tiny amount of time. See point below.
TheFartyDoctor Talk 02:44, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
Presuming that the picture is not real is simply pure specualtion. It may have been photoshopped in the real world, but in the DWU we must presume that it was real. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 03:38, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
That's my point haha. I'm backing you up. It doesn't matter that the Doctor Who team has photoshopped it, we have to assume it to be a real happening otherwise they wouldn't have done it haha
TheFartyDoctor Talk 13:24, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Postcard Issues (Production Errors)

Just a note to say that I added a point about the final postcard received by Amy and Rory from Rory's dad where it shows the Ninth/Tenth Doctor's TARDIS. Naturally, this could be purposeful and the Moff could be planning something but I thought that it should most definitely be mentioned anyway until we hear any further news. By the 50th Anniversary, if it doesn't get referenced, then it is most probably a true error.
Hope you're okay with that.
TheFartyDoctor Talk 02:41, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Dinosaurs

Just something... the Velociraptors are the same CGI model as in Primeval (am I right in saying that The Mill reused them?), and the Ankylosaurus on the final "Siluaria" postcard is as the ones seen in Walking With Dinosaurs. Chuck1551 ☎ 21:11, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

King Solomon's Treasure

The episode seems to be influenced by the 1979 British B (or lower)-grade horror movie King Solomon's Treasure, which features dinosaurs guarding the titular treasure. The main character is, of course, Allan Quatermain, the great African hunter who seems to be the inspiration for John Riddell. The name "Solomon," from the title, is transferred to the avaricious trader and treasure-seeker, Solomon (a more charitable explanation than ethnic sterotyping on the writer's part). For Nefertiti, the movie had Queen Nyleptha. 98.180.50.35talk to me 22:25, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

2020?

Where's the confirmation that the present day Amy/Rory scenes were in 2020? The article says Amy/Rory are the same age, but Let's Kill Hitler seemed to suggest that they weren't in the same class, which could mean he's older than Amy. I don't think we should put a definite date until 'The Angels Take Manhattan' has aired.

Who's to say we'll get confrontation there? And where did you get that indication? OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 15:55, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
Well, that's when Amy and Rory's story comes to an end, it would probably be better to wait until then before we start stamping dates.:
That's presuming a lot. We don't need to wait. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 19:07, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
Lets also not forget, Rory is 2000 years older than Amy, given the whole centurion thing. 217.129.84.2talk to me 03:54, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
Well, he says that he is "31" or something, so I don't think he counts the 2000 years there.... OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 10:55, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Wondering about the 2020 date myself. No indication in the episode of the year. Also we know from a photo from The Angels Take Manhattan that part of that episode is set in New York City in 2018 (from the newspaper dateline). How did someone arrive at 2020? If you are using the line about Rory being 31 or something, where and when does it say that? Not disputed it, just do not remember that line. --ScoutDaddy70 ☎ 22:41, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Rory says it when Brian suggests he puts something on his xmas list, when rory exclaims 'Dad, I'm 31'. But his age still doesn't mean it has to be 2020. It's never stated he and amy are the same age

New Picture

I was wondering if i could change the main picture of the page to the Doctor petting the Triceratops, i only want to do this because i think it's more significant then the current picture of the Raptors.

Signed: Duncs Kinnear-Swift: 15th September 2012

No. The picture that is there now looks the best and best represents up the episode. The other image is barely visable at 250px. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 16:26, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
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