Talk:Tremas Master

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Rename proposal: Tremas Master

One reason for this proposal is that it is 'already the wiki's practice', if not policy. On almost every page that talks about the Tremas Master, he is referred to as such. It would be confusing for wiki-readers (or "the not-we") to click a link reading "Tremas Master" and instead arrive at "The Master (The Keeper of Traken)" instead. Another reason is that, other than "Ainley Master" (or Ainley!Master), it is the most common name for this incarnation of the Master in fandom, and this means they will be less confused when visiting the page (and they should be the ones visiting the page most often). A third (and final for now) reason is that, unlike Talk:The Master (Terror of the Autons), there are no other viable names (that I know of, feel free to correct me) other than, perhaps, the "Trakenite" Master, as that's the species of person he inhabits. However, the fan and wiki usage of this is much, much lower (if it exists at all, I've certainly never seen it). Cousin Ettolrhc ☎ 18:36, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

The name ‘Tremas’ Master is incontestably the correct name for this article. It’s in-universe, it succinctly conveys which version of the character it is, it’s the most common non-actor name used for the version of the character. Heck, we already use it on multi-Master pages. We should implement this. To dismiss any proposals of ‘Trakenite’ Master, (1) it’s not as used among the not-we’s and (2) it’s not even accurate at all times. During ‘First Frontier’, the ‘Tremas’ Master purged himself of his Trakenite DNA and becomes fully Time Lord —but still keeps the body of Tremas. So I FULLY support ‘Tremas’ Master. Furthermore, I think it should be the model for other body-hopping incarnations: STOLENBODYNAME + Master. Only reason this hasn’t gotten any further support thus far is because it’s so non-controversial that nobody even thought to check and see if it was already done. Make it so! NoNotTheMemes ☎ 07:53, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out all the reasons we shouldn't use "Trakenite Master", memes. I was worried people might want that. And I also agree this should be standard 'policy' for naming Masters who've stolen a body. Although we of course can't pass policy in this Talk thread, as it's only a talk thread, so doing it one-off (twice, again for Bruce) is totally fine. Cousin Ettolrhc ☎ 08:17, 12 January 2023 (UTC)