User:SOTO/Forum Archive/A new Tardis, at last/@comment-57280-20150105151618/@comment-1432718-20150106165047

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/A new Tardis, at last/@comment-57280-20150105151618/@comment-1432718-20150106165047 Ok, specific concerns, here goes:

As User:Rob T Firefly stated in another thread, why do the 4 social network icons get their own button, but the more important functions need a hover (or in the case of page history and what links here, two hovers)? Are the social network functions really used more than the edit and talk page functions?

The table of contents icon is poorly placed. If there's no TOC, the pencil icon is on top, but if there is a TOC, its icon is on top. Also, aside from the fact that you need a hover (or series of hovers) to get to a specific location on the TOC, you can no longer get a look at the entire TOC in one glance.

I get what you're saying about the touch devices (though I often edit on my ipad, and I've always found the hovers more of a pain than the clicks), but most of the improvements just cause more work. For those of us with thousands or tens of thousands of edits, it will take a while to make new habits, and for new users, who might already be unfamiliar with how to edit on a wiki, it seems like it's just more confusing having to decipher icons that are not really intuitive.

I understand that a lot of hard work went into these changes, and that it can be frustrating to hear nothing but negative, but it's also frustrating to be used to doing things a certain way then have to make changes.

I do like two of the new features, though they cause more work as well. The larger font size is much easier for old eyes to read, and I like the hide function for the longer infoboxes. This will hopefully help keep our story articles from looking awful.