Howling:The Pandorica
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The Pandorica is supposed to be a prison, right? And MS said an enemy from TEH is in TPO/TBBg, so what if the Atraxi control the Pandorica?!?!?! It would explain how Zero knew about it, and also how RS knew.... -- Dragonfree OVER 3,500 EDITS 21:46, May 29, 2010 (UTC) (on the animal crossing wiki)
- But the Pandorica is also an old Time Lord fairy tale. How does that fit in? (I'm still thinking Shada, myself.) --Falcotron 22:02, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
- The Pandorica is an ancient, mythic prison box located in the Pandorica Chamber, beneath Stonehenge. The only known enemies from The Eleventh Hour in the finale are a few who appeared in flashbacks. The Atraxi wouldn't control an ancient prison box that has been hidden benath Stonehenge for goodness knows how many years. They're nothing but your basic space policemen, not ancient guardians of an ancient Earth prison box in the legends and myths, said to prison a certain... something. Delton Menace 23:38, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Got it! The crack is like a transporter device for whatever's in the Pandorica. E.G. When the Daleks moved the Earth, it got moved back, right? But after, the Daleks were apparently destroyed, and a line in VotD suggests a crack appeared, transported the Daleks to the Pandorica, and erased them from time so people [read: 21st Century Earth] wouldn't remeber what they did! This could be Moffat's way of bringing back Davros, and all the enemies in TPO/TBB have been transported to the Pandorica! This is why Rory will return in the finale, he's safe and sound in the Pandorica prison! -- Dragonfree OVER 3,500 EDITS 12:17, May 30, 2010 (UTC) (on the animal crossing wiki)
- I gotta mention this since I haven't seen anyone say anything about this relation yet. Pandorica - Pandora's Box. Simple name similarity or more to it? V00D00M0NKY 12:25, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- It's been mentioned all over the place. Some fans even think the connection must go farther, and the Time Lady Pandora will be coming back, or maybe the Pandorica will be the Vaults on Gallifrey and Romana is coming back, or... who knows what else. Hey, maybe Patrick Stewart is playing Romana III. :)
- I think from an out-of-universe perspective it's probably not a coincidence; the Moff was thinking Pandora (at least subconsciously) when he came up with Pandorica. But as for an in-universe connection, I'm more doubtful of that. --Falcotron 12:41, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- There definitely has to be related out-of-universe. The Pandorica opens and cracks form all over the universe erasing stuff from time. If Pandora's box opens then all hell breaks loose. I did hear people mention the Time Lady Pandora but I don't recall seeing anyone mention Pandora's box. V00D00M0NKY 12:49, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- I think from an out-of-universe perspective it's probably not a coincidence; the Moff was thinking Pandora (at least subconsciously) when he came up with Pandorica. But as for an in-universe connection, I'm more doubtful of that. --Falcotron 12:41, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- It's somewhere on this forum. And in the GO and DWO forums. And it gets added to, removed from, and added back to the article for The Pandorica Opens on a weekly basis. (I'm hoping the latest, totally non-committal version that I added, just calling it a "persistent fan theory", will keep it from being deleted and re-added again....) The problem is, where does the theory go from here? There's a similarity between the names, so... what does that tell us? What clues could we look for to confirm or deny whether it's just a coincidence?
- Anyway, the Doctor seems pretty sure that it's the explosion that causes the cracks, not the Pandorica opening in and of itself. Of course the Pandorica opening could be what causes the explosion, or he could be wrong (especially since everyone else in the Whoniverse seems to know more about it than him).
- Another theory I've seen mentioned elsewhere is that the Moff started off with an idea directly about Pandora's Box, and then the story changed so much as he was sketching it out that he decided to change the name. I don't know about this one--but I suspect if it's true, we'd hear about it in the episode 12 or 13 Confidential.... --Falcotron 13:01, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- Just throwing it out there, but it's said that the Pandorica contains the most feared being in the cosmos. It seems to be rather heavily stressed that so many races fear the Doctor. Is that just a coincidence?124.181.147.134 13:29, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- I think the Pandorica is a box secured in a chamber cointaing the most feared thing in all the universe so it might be a prison maybe that explain's why there is loads of enemies in the series finale The mysterious 13:36, June 6, 2010 (UTC)