Talk:Ann Kelso

Should this be moved to Anya Kingdom? After all, Ann Kelso never existed.2601:142:103:C509:846D:31DC:AA6F:74FF^{talk to me} 05:23, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

Although it remained so for a long while, there is precedent (in Yana and Ruth Clayton) to keep "fake persona with full backgrounds and different memory sets" separate from the original individual. Though not through the use of a Chameleon Arch, this is more or less the same that happened with Ann/Anya. Specially in light of each of them being main characters in a full audio series, it's benefetial that each of them gets their own page. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 19:24, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

There's precedent for having a page for Ann and a page for Anya, but I don't think it's helpful in this case. Ann has no background beyond being a police officer and a significant part of Dalek Universe was the Doctor coming to accept that Ann was not a different person to Anya. I can see why it makes sense for Yana and John Smith, who are completely different people to the Master and the Doctor, but this split just means that some of Anya's biography is on another page.

Just as we cover Hector Thomas on Hex's page, I think Ann should be covered on Anya's. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 11:43, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Having just listened Dalek Universe and added information to the Anya Kingdom page, I agree with Jack here. They aren't two separate people, Ann is Anya cover story and false identity with just some sci-fi added that "brainwashed" her. It is mentioned several times that Anya is aware of her past as Ann, knows what went down with the Doctor when her true identity was revealed. Other SSS agents know about her and it's on her record, and Anya uses Kelso has an alias when posing as a Movellan. It's a different sitation to Yana or John Smith or Rith Clayton and they should be merged back again. Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 22:08, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

I'd also add that Vienna Salvatori uses memory boxes to give herself a new identity relatively frequently, tucking her real self away in her mind for a bit. We don't cover each of those false identities separately and I don't think it makes sense to do it for Ann either. Jack ☎ 13:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, perhaps we should. That could swing in either direction, surely. I will also say that Anya remaining aware of Ann's activities doesn't really change things; the Master and the Tenth Doctor very explicitly remember everything John Smith and Yana did. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 15:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

How far should that extend, though? To the likes of Kayehla Janees and Beth Halloran as well? Jack ☎ 11:52, 6 July 2024 (UTC)