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Forum:What do we call the post-Miracle Day Torchwood?

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I don't think using "Torchwood Three" to refer to the new Torchwood team (that is, Jack, Gwen, Rex and Esther), like e.g. adding the "Torchwood 3 associates" category to the Esther and Rex articles, is appropriate anymore. Torchwood Three was the Cardiff branch, and with the destruction of the Hub and relocation to America, I doubt they'll be referred to by any other name than just "Torchwood". So, what do we call them now, to differentiate them from the rest of the former Torchwood Institute? For now, I used "Post-Miracle Day Torchwood" on the Torchwood Institute page. Ausir(talk) <staff/> 16:34, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

They're still the Torchwood Three team. It hasn't changed.--Skittles the hog - talk 16:38, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it's that accurate now. Two of the members of the "new" Torchwood used to be Torchwood Three, but given that Torchwood 1, Torchwood 3, and apparently all other branches have been destroyed, and that the organization did not exist at all for a couple of years, and is being re-established from scratch after Miracle Day, I wouldn't call them that anymore. They are now just "Torchwood", without any numerical designation. I very much doubt they'll ever be referred to as "Torchwood Three" again. Ausir(talk) <staff/> 16:41, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Until the television tells me that they're no longer in Torchwood Three, I don't believe it. You can't just say that they're now "just Torchwood" without some on screen evidence.--Skittles the hog - talk 16:51, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think the fact that Torchwood 3 was the Cardiff branch set up to oversee the Rift, which is obviously not happening anymore and the fact that "Torchwood 3" is not being mentioned anymore is enough. If you think only them mentioning in dialogue that they're not "Torchwood 3" anymore would be enough of an evidence, I don't really see that happening, simply because they are not likely to ever mention "Torchwood 3" again.
Official series synopsis mentions that "Torchwood was destroyed, years ago" but now "a new Torchwood team takes shape". I'd say that this is enough to conclude that they're not "Torchwood Three" anymore, but a new team, which might be comprised partly of former Torchwood Three members, but will use just the name "Torchwood". Ausir(talk) <staff/> 16:56, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

An out-of-universe synopsis isn't a source. The Torchwood team is an okay name, but not post-Miracle Day. That's just a term you've made up.--Skittles the hog - talk 17:00, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

How about using "new Torchwood team"? And yeah, I'm not saying we should use "post-Miracle Day" as the "official" name, just used it as a descriptive term. As for the synopsis, I'm not using it as the primary source, just as a secondary reference which confirms what can also be concluded from on-screen evidence. Ausir(talk) <staff/> 17:01, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
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