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Hi,

I have found a new series of Doctor Who (Matt Smith) children's books, known as 'flip books' (because you read one story, then turn the book upside down so that the back becomes the front, and you have a second story). These don't seem to be covered in the wikia at all.

Here's some links to them on Amazon:

Book 1: Heart of Stone / Death Riders

Book 2: The Good, the Bad and the Alien / System Wipe

Book 3: Rain of Terror / Extra Time(not yet released)

The same format was used by A.A. Wynn for the Ace Doubles. Poking around the wikipedia entry for the Ace Doubles, I see the term for it in bookbinding is tête-bêche. I would hesitate to write the article on the Whovian stuff without a copy of one in my hand, but if anyone ever does.... Boblipton talk to me 19:39, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Book 4: The Underwater War / Terminal of Despair (not yet released)


Sorry, I don't have to time to add these, and was hoping someone else did...

Jamdog 21:04, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

I hope you'll find a good name for them, in the french Doctor Who wiki, we have something like children's book with the 11th doctor published by penguin books... But flip books seems a good name. 11th Doctor flip books by Penguin Books... Here, you can adapt this page: [1] --4me 23:25, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
Actually they're properly called "chapter books", as confirmed by the blog of David Bailey, one of the commissioned writers. And amazon.co.uk. And amazon.com. "Flip book" is a colloquial appellation which describes the publication format and shouldn't be used to name the range. "Chapter book" is an term used in the industry to describe the content and style of the books. (Put in "chapter books" to the amazon search engine, and you'll see it describes a whole hierarchy of books.) The fact that these are 2-in-1 books is sort of incidental to what kind of books they are.
czechout<staff />   15:46:57 Thu 10 Mar 2011 
Taking a tour around Special:BookSources with these books today leads me to believe that these have well and truly settled into a range that is most often called "Doctor Who Chapter Books" range. They definitely aren't NSAs, as they are currently mislabelled in infoboxes.
czechout<staff />   15:06: Wed 08 Feb 2012 
Poking around the wikipedia entry for the Ace Doubles -- same format -- I see that the bookbinding term is tête-bêche. Boblipton talk to me 19:39, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
Yep, good point for the body of the article about the range. But we don't typically name articles about ranges based upon the binding type. "Chapter book" is a perfectly commonplace industry term, and several publishers actually incorporate it into their official range names. BBC Children's Books have not actually, officially, included it on/in their books in this instance, but it's the closest term to describe what these books are. To the BBC, this is just part of their "Doctor Who Children's Books" line, but then so are certain activity books, a couple of reference books, The Darksmith Legacy, and modern annuals. (At least according to the official home of BBC Childrens Books that have to do with DW.)
We have to get something that limits us to just the 2-in-1 series. So we might as well be using what booksellers seem to be overwhelmingly using: Doctor Who Chapter Books. This will of course mean that we'll need a new prefix, and CB seems to present itself, unless there are objections.
czechout<staff />   19:54: Thu 09 Feb 2012