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Why Can't people have non BBC posted Youtube Videos on their user page?– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doctorpenguin (talk • contribs) .
- Because this site can in no way be seen to host copyright-violating videos. The question of where those videos are located is completely irrelevant. If you were to upload the whole of The Masque of Mandragora — or whatever — from its (illegal) YouTube files, then you are directly depriving the BBC of revenue that it could reasonably expect to make on the sales of the DVD. The BBC have, in the past, come down on some people on YouTube who've violated copyright in this way, and they'll likely do it again.
- We don't want them coming down on us or Wikia.
- There is simply no justification whatsover for posting video other than that which the BBC or its national broadcasters have released in a specifically embeddable format.
- Please remember also that user pages are not yours. You don't have the right to do whatever you please with them. Putting non-BBC video up on "your" user page violates at least two, rather clear provisions of our user page policy:
- This wiki "is not a free host or webpage provider". "Your" user page must be used — in the very broadest sense — to support your editing on this wiki. We're very liberal about how we interpret this, though. Even things which help the community get to know you as a person are generally allowed, as that ultimately helps consensus editing. However, there is no way on God's green Earth that seeing all four parts of a Galaxy 4 reconstruction on "your" user page could be reasonably construed as a way to "get to know you".
- The policy also states that "any illegal or inappropriate content or links to such material is forbidden". Video on YouTube which has not been provided by the copyright holder is most definitely illegal. You may not embed it or even provide a link to it on "your" user page.
- Now, that said, I can imagine an exception on a user page — one that tardis:video policy does not currently contemplate. Let's say you wanted to film yourself explaining your editing interests and your favourite things about the DWU. That's be fine to upload to "your" user page — as long as it didn't included clips from copyright-protected stuff spliced into it — because it would be directly relevant to your editing here and you'd be the copyright holder. But you'd need to write a little message on the file explaining that it is actually you and you're the copyright holder. Otherwise I or another admin would summarily delete it.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 14:39:41 Thu 09 Jun 2011
I tried to upload a video i made myself with no bbc stuff in it to "my" user page and it was deleted --Doctorpenguin 17:05, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
- I assume you're talking about video:Tim Foulkes is Doctor Who - 1. Is this video of you?
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 05:30:23 Fri 10 Jun 2011
I dont appear in it its just a short story using doctor who action figures --
15:19, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
- Ahh, well in that case, no, you can't upload the video. You might have made it yourself, but if it's not of you, I don't see how it might fall into this theoretical exception I mentioned above. We might allow video of you telling us about your editing interests, in lieu of typing them out, but I can't see how we could possibly justify fan video. If we allow yours in, we have to allow them all in. And there's another wiki for fan audio and video productions. w:c:dwextended, if I'm not mistaken.
- The other thing is the question of whether you've secured the necessary release forms from the people who appeared in the video, whether the people in the video are old enough to appear in a video that we're helping to make public, and if they're not, whether their parent or guardian has explicitly allowed them to appear in a video that can be seen globally without restriction. Moreover, there's the serious consideration on whether it violates Wikia's TOS to have a video uploaded to its servers which contains images of someone who is evidently under the age of 13. This starts to border on the questions considered by the United States' COPPA law, and it's frankly best if we just give that law a wide berth.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 17:08:34 Fri 10 Jun 2011
- The other thing is the question of whether you've secured the necessary release forms from the people who appeared in the video, whether the people in the video are old enough to appear in a video that we're helping to make public, and if they're not, whether their parent or guardian has explicitly allowed them to appear in a video that can be seen globally without restriction. Moreover, there's the serious consideration on whether it violates Wikia's TOS to have a video uploaded to its servers which contains images of someone who is evidently under the age of 13. This starts to border on the questions considered by the United States' COPPA law, and it's frankly best if we just give that law a wide berth.
