Howling:How did the Master get to the end of the universe?
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Have anyone ever wondered what happened to The Master's TARDIS? He had to have used it to get to the end of the universe and can't have a Chameleon Arch without one so what happened to her? Did he abandon her just so he could steal the Doctors or did he lose her?– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 92.15.139.66 (talk).
Others (including me) certainly have wondered about this. The problem is a shortage of information from the episodes. As well as those you mention (he abandoned her to steal the Doctor's TARDIS or he'd somehow lost her), there's the possibility that he deliberately sent her away. He was, after all, running away from the Time War & hiding, so he might have feared that keeping a TARDIS around would reveal -- either to the Time Lords or to the Daleks -- that there was a Time Lord in the vicinity. It's possible to program a TARDIS with destination coordinates & a time delay so that, after a set interval, she'll take off automatically. (It was done in, I think, The Five Doctors.) He could have done that before he used the Arch, so that his TARDIS would take herself elsewhere after he'd got out of her. Of course, that would leave him stranded, so it's not a very sensible plan -- but this is the Master we're talking about. I expect others can devise alternative (& probably better) scenarios but I doubt that we'll ever find out definitively unless a future story happens to require the availability of an unaccounted-for TARDIS. --89.241.218.121talk to me 21:18, June 15, 2014 (UTC) It's hard to see the Master abandoning is TARDIS and thus his way of becoming the Master again which would, probably, be important to him.DCT ☎ 16:02, July 10, 2014 (UTC)
There are a lot of possible explanations, but they are all constrained by the facts of what the Master does. That he would steal the Doctor's Tardis in order to trap him in peril at the end of the universe fits him pretty well. That once discovering the limits the Doctor has placed on it, The Master doesn't try to recover his own has implications. Perhaps he became Prof. Yanna and later went to the end of the universe. The Doctor's Tardis couldn't take him to his lost tardis because it wasn't in one of those two places it could then go. I would have thought that the master, living in an age of space flight, would not have taken that chance. When the Doctor hid out on Earth, he knew that possibility was closed. (Of course, if the master told his tardis to take him someplace the Daleks have never been, Earth is the last place it would have taken him.) I would expect that the master would be clever enough to program his tardis to find him when he activated the watch to restore himself, perhaps even following him in the space-time vortex until needed. But the story needed the Master to be reliant upon the Doctor's Tardis, so perhaps the back story is that the master's tardis was damaged, on the verge of destruction when he used the Chameleon Arch. If you think about it, the very last thing the Master would do to hide would be to become a person like any other. He had to be truly out of options to do that, so the idea that his tardis was beyond repair (especially in the context of the Time War) seems pretty reasonable to me. Phil Stone ☎ 18:23, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
They are. Also, annoyingly, they're all speculative. It didn't really seem implausible that the Master would shoot to the end of the universe to escape the time war, after all it's not the most likely place they'd look for him (remember he's mortal now so must have arrived in the vicinity. It doesn't seem really likely his TARDIS was damaged he'd surely wish to effect repairs somehow before changing otherwise he knows he's stuck. Most likely, on consideration, it was simply left on some other planet which may or may not have survived. On that matter I had bigger confusion about how the Master engaged with the Toclafane. The Doctor supposedly locked the TARDIS co-ordinates so they could only travel between Earth in our present and Malcassairo at the end of the universe. But the humans who became the Toclafane weren't on Malcassairo, they were on Utopia, whatever that turned out to be. The last part isn't really the point, the point is that the beings that became the Toclafane had left the planet, so how did the Master get to them? DCT ☎ 12:30, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
The doctor locked it so he could only travel between those two years, but apparently had access to any space in that time. Because the master tells the doctor that he took lucy to utopia. Now I believe that given the amount of effort to build a rocket, it would have been easier to use the tardis. I dont have any sources, but im sure that was explained somewhere. --Coop3 ☎ 18:18, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
Any space would intimate it also had access to any space at the other end too which would defeat the purpose and point of what we were told. I suppose, therefore, we're left with the possibility that the Master's TARDIS is somewhere on Malcassairo and he was able use it to reach Utopia. Then he realized he'd need a paradox machine to save the toclafane and was saw the Doctor's as better suited for that purpose, for many reasons. Of course that still doesn't explain how we get six billion toclafane from the small handful of humans that were on that rocket.DCT ☎ 12:39, July 21, 2014 (UTC)
To myself, it seems very obvious that there was at least a little deliberation in The Master's portrayal of Professor Yana. Yana (now the master), says, "[A] disguise so perfect, I forgot who I was." (Utopia (TV story)) Also, the name Yana, the Tenth Doctor found to mean: You are not alone. But, other things might have played in as well, and I am not denying that. --JJBinks ☎ 20:48, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not really sure what you're trying to argue here. Certainly the disguise was incredibly good but that's how the chameleon arc works as were learned in Human Nature. The Master was simply surprised at how good it was probably due to his ego. It essentially erased him and it's unlikely he'd have used it if he really believed it that powerful. He may have trusted Chantho too much though but that doesn't sound like him. Yana didn't actually mean "You Are Not Alone" the viewer is meant to understand that Jack Harkness?The Face Of Boe gives it that interpretation when he wants to give the Doctor a clue to what's coming it's an infuriating paradox of things we're meant to believe just came about by coincidence.DCT ☎ 12:42, August 23, 2014 (UTC)
