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:::I don't think RPGs are canon, simply because it's '''you''' or a representation of you. Plus to go back to the key element of T:CAN, and my above question, the lack of a narrative. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:56, March 24, 2012 (UTC) | :::I don't think RPGs are canon, simply because it's '''you''' or a representation of you. Plus to go back to the key element of T:CAN, and my above question, the lack of a narrative. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:56, March 24, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::: And I don't understand how the people chased by or chasing aliens that invade planets can be considered a lack of narrative. The player characters and bots ''defeating'' Autons I can see issue with, but not the Autons' invasion and presence on Earth themselves. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 15:53, March 24, 2012 (UTC) | :::: And I don't understand how the people chased by or chasing aliens that invade planets can be considered a lack of narrative. The player characters and bots ''defeating'' Autons I can see issue with, but not the Autons' invasion and presence on Earth themselves. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 15:53, March 24, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::Yes, when you go to the roots, despite the fact that you can design characters, there still is a narration plot. Although you do have a freedom to go where you like, each planet is set into levels that have to be done in a certain order. You can't go wherever you want, you indeed have to go through the order previously set. Each planet has it's own narrative. Earth, for instance, needs the Autons that invaded it removed, and Mars with the Judoon. This is why I compared the game to FF7 above. In Final Fantasy 7, you can change EVERY characters name to your fitting, yet the game is the same. If your name is "Cloud" or "Gaylordsteambass" it doesn't matter because it's still "<Spiky haired character> went to <place>." If "Bob the Silurian" or "Quintus the human" went to Mars, then the statement is still "<companion> went to Mars." Basically, past naming your character, you don't get to choose diddly-squat. Basically what I'm saying is this: It is indeed a previously set up and planned narrative, you just get to add pretty images to it. And we can ignore that quite well. We'v done it in the past, you never see this on a page: | |||
:::::::''The Graak had trouble battling the Dalek without the Dalekanium'' | |||
::::: Why? Because that describes how the PLAYER DID, not how the character did. Heck, DOTD gave more freedom to the player than this! so why are we arguing over it? | |||
::::: Lemme put it this way, what if the "companion" had looked like [[:File:Companion.jpg|this the hole game]] instead of just first off? Well, then It would be exactly the same. No difference in plot occurs through the changes the player makes in the game. All the player can change is what he looks like and (in a very limited way) what order he takes. (I.e. you CAN go and do [[New Earth]] or the clockwork planet before finishing Earth, but it doesn't affect either narrative. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 16:14, March 24, 2012 (UTC) | |||
