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::What's the answer? The radical one of getting rid of the non-canon tag altogether? Maybe, but I doubt that will fly. I do, however, think we have reached, if not passed the point of diminishing returns and we should give this entire type of thread a rest. Even though I expect Czechout will complain that this is thread-hijacking. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] <sup>[[User talk:Boblipton|talk to me]]</sup> 22:54, May 26, 2012 (UTC) | ::What's the answer? The radical one of getting rid of the non-canon tag altogether? Maybe, but I doubt that will fly. I do, however, think we have reached, if not passed the point of diminishing returns and we should give this entire type of thread a rest. Even though I expect Czechout will complain that this is thread-hijacking. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] <sup>[[User talk:Boblipton|talk to me]]</sup> 22:54, May 26, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::Again, I agree with Bob. This seems to me to be part of a "death by a thousand cuts" of all the interesting side-steps and discontinuities of the larger world of ''Doctor Who''-related fiction. As such, it seems fundamentally misguided, and makes me want to suggest that CzechOut re-read ''[[Unnatural History (novel)|Unnatural History]]'', which I think says all that needs be said about such discontinuities. | |||
:::To answer the question about ''The Blue Angel'', I'd have to re-read it to be sure, but my recollection was that the sections of the novel which dealt with the Obverse suggested an alternative origin for Iris (hence the name of the publisher). I'm not at all sure that Iris has called herself a Time Lord or claimed that she was from Gallifrey in any work published since then; and even if she did, we know that she lies and misremembers things. Anyway, the version of Iris currently appearing on the covers of Obverse Books looks like Katy Manning, who's still playing her on audio for Big Finish. | |||
:::When I was making the comparison with Bernice Summerfield, I was specifically thinking of her earliest adventures in the non-Doctor Who NAs. As I recall (and I could be wrong,as I haven't read any of those books since shortly after they were published) they didn't use any ''Doctor Who'' monsters, but did use characters like Jason and Braxiatel who had been created for the ''Doctor Who'' NAs. Specifically, Braxiatel was never referred to as a Time Lord in those NAs, was he? | |||
:::Iris has always been an elusive, willful old bat, who refuses to be tied down by anything as mundane as continuity. Why should we presume to determine which of her adventures were real and which we're fictional in the Doctor's universe? I may have quoted this in another one of these inclusion debates, but it seems to me to come down to the line from Alan Moore's "last" Superman story: "This is an imaginary story. Aren't they all?" —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] <sup>[[User talk:Josiah Rowe|talk to me]]</sup> 01:53, May 27, 2012 (UTC) | |||
