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== The controversy isn't the UNIT dating == | |||
I have rewatched some Davison Who, and it is obvious what is going on. :) There IS a way that ''Pyramids of Mars'' and ''Mawdryn Undead'' can '''both''' be right, but it will create a permanent rift between Classic and New Who. Here goes... | |||
In an early appearance Sarah states that she is "23 years old"(anyone have the exact quote/ep?). Then, shortly afterwards, in Pyramids she is "From 1980". Thus she can't realistically be born before 1955, as that is at the beginning of her THIRD season. And seasons 12 and 13 take place over a short period of time. More like 1956. | |||
In ''Terror of the Zygons'' the Brigadier is very much working for UNIT when there is a female PM(Mrs Thatcher), placing it about 1980. In fact two stories later is Pyrmaids, where Sarah states that she's from 1980. This all fits together. | |||
However, the NEW series states that the Sarah was born in 1951! | |||
Likewise, Mawdryn Undead states that the Brigadier retired in 1976! | |||
However, the New Series makes this possible by stating that UNIT was formed in the 60's. Even though the Classic series states it was formed in in the 70's. | |||
But here's something interesting. We meet Turlough when he is a student the Brig is teaching at. However, just a few episodes later (''The Five Doctors'' of course) the Brigadier sees Turlough and...nothing. The Brigadier recognises Sarah easily enough, despite not having seen her for years (AND having suffered memory loss BEFORE meeting Turlough!) | |||
A common explanation for Mawdryn Undead is that it is ''set in a parallel universe''. We know that the TARDIS can travel to parallel universes(eg. ''Inferno''). Id we accept this, then EVERYTHING becomes crystal clear. | |||
The Classic Series and the New Series are set in parallel universes! | |||
In the Classic Series, UNIT was formed in the 70's. In 1980 the Brig was visiting Scotland to investigate the Loch Ness Monster. Sarah was born c1956 and was travelling with the The Fourth Doctor. | |||
The Doctor then travelled to a parallel universe c1983 where he met the parallel universe Brigadier, who retired from UNIT in 1976(and this UNIT had been formed in the 60's). He took Turlough with him. | |||
When the Doctor returned to the Prime Classic Universe ''this'' Brigadier obviously didn't recognise Turlough, as he'd never met him before. The Classic Series is mostly set in this universe. | |||
Beginning with ''Rose'', the New Series is set in the ''Mawdryn Undead'' Universe where UNIT was formed in the 60's the Brig retired in 1976, and Sarah was born in 1951. | |||
Other examples: | |||
In the Classic Universe the Doctor had recently turned 953 when he regenrated into his ''seventh'' incarnation. In the Mawdryn/New Universe his ''ninth'' incarnation was still 900(and don't give me that "he doesn't know" crap! Of course he does. He has a symbiotic relationship with the TARDIS, and he can only ever return to Gallifrey in his "present".) | |||
The opposing Cybermen origin stories. | |||
The opposing "End of the Earth" stories ''The Ark'' versus ''The End of the World'' | |||
Where were Torchwood while the Doctor was '''working for UNIT'''? | |||
In ''Mawdryn Undead'' the Alt Universe Brigadier states that UNIT is a "top secret" organisation. This fits in with Torchwood's cluelessness of the Doctor being on Earth at the time.... However in Seasons 7-13 of the Classic Series pretty much everyone knew and spoke about UNIT. | |||
In Mawdryn Undead the Brigadier states he has seen the Doctor regenerate twice before. In the Classic Prime Universe, he only saw the Doctor regenerate once. | |||
The VERY different Classic Prime Universe and Mawdryn/New Universe Silurians. | |||
Therefore, it's not a UNIT dating controversy. It's simply two parallel worlds. Davies and Moffat have created an entire New Series(plus spin-offs) set in the Parallel Universe first introduced in Mawdryn Undead. [[Special:Contributions/41.132.116.62|41.132.116.62]]<sup>[[User talk:41.132.116.62#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:04, June 24, 2012 (UTC) | |||
