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:And that's really the problem with most of the examples you've given from ''Chronicles'' or FP source. There's no definitive statement of ''anything'' in these books. No Atkinson. No Shalka Doctor. No War that's depicted in the FP series. No nothing. It's all implication and innuendo. And that's perfectly fine to explore in a behind the scenes section. But not in the main body of in-universe articles. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">19:46: Sun 08 Jul 2012 </span> | :And that's really the problem with most of the examples you've given from ''Chronicles'' or FP source. There's no definitive statement of ''anything'' in these books. No Atkinson. No Shalka Doctor. No War that's depicted in the FP series. No nothing. It's all implication and innuendo. And that's perfectly fine to explore in a behind the scenes section. But not in the main body of in-universe articles. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">19:46: Sun 08 Jul 2012 </span> | ||
::The phrase "[[Second War in Heaven]]" comes ''exclusively'' from the Faction Paradox line, which is why there's a proposal by Tangerineduel on that page's talk page to rename it for the Tardis wiki. For the purposes of the Tardis wiki, we really ought to just call it the War or the War against the Enemy to distinguish it from the Last Great Time War. I'm not going to get into an argument over how close the Great Houses from the Faction Paradox line are to the Time Lords in Doctor Who, since it isn't relevant here, but clearly the things written about the war between the Time Lords and the Enemy are the same things that happened in the war between the Great Houses and the Enemy up to the just prior to the events of ''The Ancestor Cell''. I'm not at all suggesting that the Faction Paradox stuff be combined with the stuff in this wiki, but if you've ever read ''The Book of the War'' and the Eighth Doctor novels, you know what I'm talking about. | |||
::Since "the BBC has to own it" isn't a requirement for anything else to be considered in-continuity from our in-universe perspective, that's not really germane to the question of ''Dimensions in Time's'' status as a legitimate source. Nor does ''owning'' it have anything to do with whether or not they ''licensed'' it. The arguments against ''Dimensions in Time'' are all really awful, in my experience. | |||
::It's actually pretty clear from the Star Trek/Doctor Who crossover comic that the Doctor has somehow ended up in a parallel universe. That's why in the second issue he notes that he doesn't know what a Klingon is and how wrong it is that he knows every planet but doesn't know any of the planets that've been mentioned. ''Star Trek'' thus becomes part of the greater network of parallel universes to which the Doctor has traveled, but not part of the Doctor Who Universe as such. It's possible that you might be using the word "universe" differently than I am. | |||
::On the primary topic, you seem to have misunderstood. "Don't go beyond what is actually stated in the source" is ''exactly'' what I was trying to convey. So if ''The Gallifrey chronicles'' mentions three incarnations of the Ninth Doctor, we can't state definitively that the other two were the Shalka Doctor and the ''Fatal Death'' Doctor, but neither can we state definitively that they ''aren't.'' -- [[User:Rowan Earthwood|Rowan Earthwood]] <sup>[[User talk:Rowan Earthwood|talk to me]]</sup> 01:37, July 9, 2012 (UTC) | |||
