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::Hope that was helpful and thanks again for your work. Please do remember to start a forum discussion about whether we should keep these two articles. Even if we do decide to revert to a single article, I'm sure your work will be largely preserved in the main. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">17:56: Sat 23 Jun 2012 </span> | ::Hope that was helpful and thanks again for your work. Please do remember to start a forum discussion about whether we should keep these two articles. Even if we do decide to revert to a single article, I'm sure your work will be largely preserved in the main. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">17:56: Sat 23 Jun 2012 </span> | ||
== No hard feelings == | |||
:I appreciate the apology, but it's not necessary. I'm quite capable of compartmentalising issues I have with people. I've had strong discussions with [[user:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] here, for instance, but our working relationship is solid. Maybe we work well with each other ''because'' we know we can argue our respective positions with vigour. | |||
:That said, I am a little shocked to learn ''now'' that you had been in contact with staff through other means. It would have been helpful to have known that a few days ago. It would ''also'' have been nice to know that Mathmagician wasn't just ''threatening'' Special:Contact, but that he had already done it. Since the issue was already laid before Staff, my efforts to stop escalation were moot, and I was unfairly disadvantaged in the decision-making process. | |||
:Since this was an issue in which I was singled out, I was sort of being tried ''in absentia''. I should have been given a chance to lay my arguments directly before Staff, just as you guys did. I needlessly spent time trying to argue that the matter shouldn't even go before Staff, when it was already there. To continue the legal metaphor, I was stuck at arraignment when the trial itself had begun. Had I known that I'd already been tattled on, I would have instead made clear the technical problems in changing the signature, and offered the compromise of me manually signing posts at Central. Overall, this would have been a better solution for everyone. | |||
:To the extent I was stubborn, it was likely because I was being told that I had violated the TOU. In no way was that ''evidently'' true, as you made clear. So naturally I resisted that. In fact Dopp's ruling doesn't mention the TOU at all, instead preferring to call this a violation of local policy. But because that policy is not written anywhere at Community, how could I have possibly known I had run foul of it? | |||
:So on the issue of whether I had done something wrong, ''of course'' I was adamant. But that doesn't mean I was unwilling to change my sig. I was simply unwilling to be forced to change '''on the basis that I had broken a rule'''. | |||
:Had I known that you guys were actually talking to Staff from the off, I would have brought forward the technical objections, not the — for lack of a better term — "legal" ones. That would have led to great flexibility on my part, because I would have offered to sign manually — like I do on all international versions of tardis — Mathmagician would have been okay with that, and it would never have gotten to Staff. | |||
:I still strongly maintain that there is ''never'' a reason to go to Staff just because a person politely refuses a request made to them. "No" merely means that you have to work harder to make your case. I tried to get Mathmagician to explain to me, in detail, whom I was inconveniencing, but instead he immediately took the view that it was time to involve Staff. And apparently, you, too, went to Staff. | |||
:I might not like the way this issue was handled, but it's not caused me to bear you ''general'' ill will. I can quite appreciate that you're caught between a rock and a hard place at Community. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="border: 1px solid #2f2cb8; padding:1px; border-radius-topright:1ex;border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:0ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:0ex; background-color:#ececec; color:#2f2cb8;font-size:.88em;font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Gadget, 'Arial Rounded MT Bold','Abadi MT Condensed Extra Bold','Gill Sans Ultra Bold','Arial Black',sans-serif;"> 14:07: Tue 28 Aug 2012</span> | |||
