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Somewhat related to [[Forum:What's the focus on the Cyber-Controller page?|the bit about the Cyber-Controllers]], I'm wondering if there should be individual pages for the various Mondasian Cyber-Leaders and Cyber-Lieutenants. (i.e. [[Cyber-Leader (Earthshock)]], [[Cyber-Lieutenant (Earthshock)]] and so forth), leaving [[Cyber-Leader (Mondas)]] as a sort of page for the rank. May need to rewatch, but I gather David Banks and Mark Hardy's characters can't be the same convertee in every story they appear as Cybermen.
Somewhat related to [[Forum:What's the focus on the Cyber-Controller page?|the bit about the Cyber-Controllers]], I'm wondering if there should be individual pages for the various Mondasian Cyber-Leaders and Cyber-Lieutenants. (i.e. [[Cyber-Leader (Earthshock)]], [[Cyber-Lieutenant (Earthshock)]] and so forth), leaving [[Cyber-Leader (Mondas)]] as a sort of page for the rank. May need to rewatch, but I gather David Banks and Mark Hardy's characters can't be the same convertee in every story they appear as Cybermen.
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:As I recall, Banks went to some lengths to connect the various Cyber-leaders he played in his book ''[[Doctor Who: Cybermen]]'', but that's not a narrative source, and thus inadmissible for our purposes. However, some of the material from that was recycled as "The Origins of the Cybermen" in the [[:File:Cybermen CD tin.jpg|''Cybermen'' CD tin]], and I don't recall whether that was presented as a story or as "made-up history". If it's the former, it's probably a valid source, and we'd need to see whether the identification of the various Cyber-leaders as the same individual (or the memories of the same individual downloaded to some central consciousness or some other such rigamarole) is recorded therein. We should also check ''[[Iceberg (novel)|Iceberg]]'' to see if the notion shows up there. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:31, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
:As I recall, Banks went to some lengths to connect the various Cyber-leaders he played in his book ''[[Doctor Who: Cybermen]]'', but that's not a narrative source, and thus inadmissible for our purposes. However, some of the material from that was recycled as "The Origins of the Cybermen" in the [[:File:Cybermen CD tin.jpg|''Cybermen'' CD tin]], and I don't recall whether that was presented as a story or as "made-up history". If it's the former, it's probably a valid source, and we'd need to see whether the identification of the various Cyber-leaders as the same individual (or the memories of the same individual downloaded to some central consciousness or some other such rigamarole) is recorded therein. We should also check ''[[Iceberg (novel)|Iceberg]]'' to see if the notion shows up there. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:31, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


:Ooh, we may also need to check [[The ArcHive Tapes (audio story)]], which may or may not be the same as the ''History of the Cybermen'' CD. I can check the latter some time over the next few days, but I don't own the former to see whether it's the same content. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:35, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
:Ooh, we may also need to check [[The ArcHive Tapes (audio anthology)]], which may or may not be the same as the ''History of the Cybermen'' CD. I can check the latter some time over the next few days, but I don't own the former to see whether it's the same content. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:35, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


:: If it was a segment from ''Cybermen'', then I'd gather it counts as "work of non-fiction made-up history". But maybe that's just me. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 14:38, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
:: If it was a segment from ''Cybermen'', then I'd gather it counts as "work of non-fiction made-up history". But maybe that's just me. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 14:38, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
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