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What would be the best [[Tardis:List of prefixes|prefix]] to use for ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS]]?'' The thing keeping [[DW]] from being entirely appropriate is of course the fact that the scenes were not televised, only released on DVD, though presented in a manner that seems to keep them placed in continuity rather than being discounted like deleted scenes or other extraneous material.
What would be the best [[Tardis:List of prefixes|prefix]] to use for ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS]]?'' The thing keeping [[TV]] from being entirely appropriate is of course the fact that the scenes were not televised, only released on DVD, though presented in a manner that seems to keep them placed in continuity rather than being discounted like deleted scenes or other extraneous material.


Currently all our BBC DVD-related prefixes are for out-of-universe material such as [[DCOM]], while our in-universe direct-to-video prefixes apply to non-BBC licencees like [[BBV]] and [[RP]]. Should we perhaps come up with a new prefix for this sort of thing, or extend [[DW]] to include it? [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] 21:57, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
Currently all our BBC DVD-related prefixes are for out-of-universe material such as [[DCOM]], while our in-universe direct-to-video prefixes apply to non-BBC licencees like [[BBV]] and [[RP]]. Should we perhaps come up with a new prefix for this sort of thing, or extend [[TV]] to include it? [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] 21:57, June 7, 2011 (UTC)


: I think something like DW-DVD would work.[[User:Zodisgod|Zodisgod]] 22:29, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
: I think something like DW-DVD would work.[[User:Zodisgod|Zodisgod]] 22:29, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
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:::Alright, I've started it up and added it to [[Tardis:List of prefixes]]. [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] 16:39, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
:::Alright, I've started it up and added it to [[Tardis:List of prefixes]]. [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] 16:39, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


::Well, I wholly disagree with that, and am going to delete that prefix, pending more discussion.  DWDVD is ''highly'' confusing.  It implies anything to do with the DVD.  If I saw DWDVD, I would think it might mean a documenary or a commentary or really anything that was on the DVD.  We have two sketches, two, that fall into this hypothetical special category.  I ''really'' think we can live with calling them just DW.  Speaking as a pedant, it's being way, way, ''way'' pedantic to make up a prefix for two sketches that hav ethe same name.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with the citation, [[DW]]: ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS]]''.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''03:34:54 Sat&nbsp;'''11 Jun 2011&nbsp;</span>
::Well, I wholly disagree with that, and am going to delete that prefix, pending more discussion.  DWDVD is ''highly'' confusing.  It implies anything to do with the DVD.  If I saw DWDVD, I would think it might mean a documenary or a commentary or really anything that was on the DVD.  We have two sketches, two, that fall into this hypothetical special category.  I ''really'' think we can live with calling them just DW.  Speaking as a pedant, it's being way, way, ''way'' pedantic to make up a prefix for two sketches that hav ethe same name.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with the citation, [[TV]]: ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS]]''.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''03:34:54 Sat&nbsp;'''11 Jun 2011&nbsp;</span>


Let's look at what we're talking about here.  Here's the full text of the page that Rob created:
Let's look at what we're talking about here.  Here's the full text of the page that Rob created:
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:I think, we should probably reverse this decision, and just use the DW prefix. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:54, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
:I think, we should probably reverse this decision, and just use the DW prefix. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:54, June 11, 2011 (UTC)


::Those are all very good points, CzechOut/  I've changed the DWDVD references I'd added among the citations of ''Meanwhile'' in the wiki back to [[DW]].  However, the [[DW]] definition would seem to exclude ''Meanwhile'' because it never aired on television; should something be added to allow for this one special case, or is it best left alone for now? [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] 22:30, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
::Those are all very good points, CzechOut/  I've changed the DWDVD references I'd added among the citations of ''Meanwhile'' in the wiki back to [[TV]].  However, the [[TV]] definition would seem to exclude ''Meanwhile'' because it never aired on television; should something be added to allow for this one special case, or is it best left alone for now? [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] 22:30, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
==Archivist's notes==
==Archivist's notes==
Now that it has become clearer that Moffat does in fact like writing new, series-linked material for the DVD/Blu-ray releases, we can answer Rob's rhetorical question more definitively.  ''Meanwhile'' wasn't a one-off thing, so there is a need to change the definition of what the prefix [[DW]] means.  As is clear, all three participants to this conversation agreed that [[DW]] was the most appropriate prefix for these "home video scenes", so the text at both [[T:LOP]] and [[DW]] '''was''' changed to allow for the inclusion of this, for lack of a better term, "extra features narrative". {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}16:17: Sun&nbsp;06 May 2012&nbsp;</span>  
Now that it has become clearer that Moffat does in fact like writing new, series-linked material for the DVD/Blu-ray releases, we can answer Rob's rhetorical question more definitively.  ''Meanwhile'' wasn't a one-off thing, so there is a need to change the definition of what the prefix [[TV]] means.  As is clear, all three participants to this conversation agreed that [[TV]] was the most appropriate prefix for these "home video scenes", so the text at both [[T:LOP]] and [[TV]] '''was''' changed to allow for the inclusion of this, for lack of a better term, "extra features narrative". {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}16:17: Sun&nbsp;06 May 2012&nbsp;</span>  
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