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River was convinced the first kiss in the Doctor's timeline was the last in hers but it's entirely possible she got a pleasant surprise & found out she'd been wrong about that. As has repeatedly been said by those paying attention (& by Moffat), the "going in opposite directions" thing is at most a general trend. It may not even be that. If you list the numbers 1 to 10,000 in '''genuinely''' random order, you're very likely to have parts of the list '''looking''' as if they follow a pattern. The "going in opposite directions" thing could be the same. We look for patterns & see them even when they're not really there. (I'm usually 89 but I'm 2, just now.) --[[Special:Contributions/2.96.17.102|2.96.17.102]]<sup>[[User talk:2.96.17.102#top|talk to me]]</sup> 23:49, September 30, 2012 (UTC) | River was convinced the first kiss in the Doctor's timeline was the last in hers but it's entirely possible she got a pleasant surprise & found out she'd been wrong about that. As has repeatedly been said by those paying attention (& by Moffat), the "going in opposite directions" thing is at most a general trend. It may not even be that. If you list the numbers 1 to 10,000 in '''genuinely''' random order, you're very likely to have parts of the list '''looking''' as if they follow a pattern. The "going in opposite directions" thing could be the same. We look for patterns & see them even when they're not really there. (I'm usually 89 but I'm 2, just now.) --[[Special:Contributions/2.96.17.102|2.96.17.102]]<sup>[[User talk:2.96.17.102#top|talk to me]]</sup> 23:49, September 30, 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Much of her previously-established timeline never happened now. Up until this episode it was clear that she spent years, probably centuries in Stormgate Prison. She was sentenced for what, 12,000 consecutive lifetimes? And since around 200 years passed for the Doctor between ''The Time of Angels'' and ''The Wedding of River Song'', one might assume that 200 years passed for River, too (but in a different order). But now the Doctor has erased his name from all of history; the authorities at Stormcage quickly discovered that the man she was convicted of killing could not be proven to have ever existed, and she was pardoned "long ago." As a result, all those years spent in prison in order to convince the Doctor's enemies that he was really dead didn't happen. What's more, there would be no point in her serving time to make the Doctor's death look good now that no one knows who the Doctor was; if she wasn't pardoned, she just would have escaped and never come back. In the old timeline, River is out on parole in ''The Time of Angels.'' In the new timeline, she was never paroled because she was pardoned instead. While their 'last kiss' might have happened in prison in the old timeline, in the new timeline River and the Doctor won't kiss for the last time until long after she was released. So my point is, you can't accurately try to fit River's adventures up to this point up with what she says in ''The Angels Take Manhattan'', because they take place in different histories. -- [[User:Rowan Earthwood|Rowan Earthwood]] [[User talk:Rowan Earthwood|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:37, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | |||
