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Okay, River says in TATM that she's been pardoned from prison because the man she killed never existed. This appears to be a nod to the fact that records of the Doctor have been disappearing from databases, something that's been infrequently brought up this series. And yet I find it extremely hard to accept that the authorities would assume the Doctor never existed, so River can't have killed him, just because he isn't mentioned in their records. They would have to have known what it was she had done in order for them to have locked her up in the first place. And in The Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone, one cleric mentions that she killed a very important man, and this can't have been very long before her appearance in TATM. [[Special:Contributions/82.20.113.152|82.20.113.152]]<sup>[[User talk:82.20.113.152#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:36, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | Okay, River says in TATM that she's been pardoned from prison because the man she killed never existed. This appears to be a nod to the fact that records of the Doctor have been disappearing from databases, something that's been infrequently brought up this series. And yet I find it extremely hard to accept that the authorities would assume the Doctor never existed, so River can't have killed him, just because he isn't mentioned in their records. They would have to have known what it was she had done in order for them to have locked her up in the first place. And in The Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone, one cleric mentions that she killed a very important man, and this can't have been very long before her appearance in TATM. [[Special:Contributions/82.20.113.152|82.20.113.152]]<sup>[[User talk:82.20.113.152#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:36, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:I suppose simply for the sake of the story, (and depending on just how "erased" the Doctor is at that point) one could argue this: If Stormcage has absolutely no records of the Doctor, and are completely unable to find any information from outside sources, then it is possible (maybe not likely, possible) that she could by law argue that she never killed anyone, and they would be forced to let her go. That still doesn't explain the issue of the Clerics claiming to still technically have her in "custody" in a late time frame, but it would explain them still knowing what she did. Also, we have to keep in mind that whatever is happening with this removal of the Doctor from the records is probably going to end up being a problem. One he moist likely will need to undo, either partially or completely. If that situation I started this post with turns out to be true, then when it's undone they may very well just put her back in prison. | |||
:Or (slightly more likely, and what I'm personally going with for now) maybe this River just happens to be from a much later time period than the versions of her we'll see again soon. Maybe her line about "travelling with him, but not all the time" isn't because she can't, but because she already knows she didn't. That would also explain her comment about being pardoned "ages ago", and how this appearance could still be long after the crash of the Byzantium. I still argue that we don't know for absolute certain that River actually showed up in the last episode with the intention of helping everyone. She was already there before everyone else, and could very well have been doing her own thing when Rory showed up, since she seemed to know so much about what was going on. She knew about the problems with time that were happening there, she seemed to know who Grayle was beforehand, and other people (including Grayle) were already aware of her being called Melody Malone and that she was studying Angels- even though the book had not yet been released in that time period. But getting back to the point about prison: If this '''is''' a later River as I described, then it's possible for her to have simply broken out for good and lied about it. Seemingly the only reason for her to have ever kept returning to prison was to keep the Silence from knowing she didn't actually kill him, and either going after him again or worse- using '''her''' against him again. Meaning if this is a "late" River, she could be from after the events that stop the Silence for good, and have no reason to stay in prison at all anymore. [[User:Saghan|Saghan]] [[User talk:Saghan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:08, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | |||
