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Being Professor River Song means she has a departmental chair (head of department) or a personal chair (same rank but without the burden of admin), which generally requires much more than "some sort of teaching". She must be well established in her field, with plenty of high-quality research to her credit. (I was 89 not long ago but I'm 78 now.) --[[Special:Contributions/78.146.184.166|78.146.184.166]]<sup>[[User talk:78.146.184.166#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:13, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | Being Professor River Song means she has a departmental chair (head of department) or a personal chair (same rank but without the burden of admin), which generally requires much more than "some sort of teaching". She must be well established in her field, with plenty of high-quality research to her credit. (I was 89 not long ago but I'm 78 now.) --[[Special:Contributions/78.146.184.166|78.146.184.166]]<sup>[[User talk:78.146.184.166#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:13, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Thank you for bringing the professor issue to my attention. Though I will say I was not trying to imply that it meant she had only spent time teaching, I'm still glad you defined it further. That also leads me to bring up another point. | |||
:I posted some of this in another thread on here just prior to this, but some of it is a bit more relevant on this one, so I'll try to sum up some of the points I made there: Though I could be wrong, I believe the River we see in TATM is from much further ahead in her own timeline than the ones we're likely to see in her next few appearances. Most likely from a point '''after''' the "Silence" is finally completely dealt with, since it seems like her only reason to keep returning to prison is to keep the Silence from suspecting that she didn't actually kill the Doctor. As someone else brought up, it seems unlikely for them to pardon her just because he's not in a database. They would still already know. She may end up being pardoned (or just breaking out for good once the Silence are dealt with permanently) but it could also be for another reason, and she's just lying. '''Again'''.. I believe all of this this for several reasons. | |||
:1. She has suddenly matured quite a bit more than when we last saw her, and much closer to how she was in the Library. She still has her silly little quips, but even those were approached with a bit less of her normal childish attitude. She has also (upon this meeting with her) become much more willing to scold the Doctor. She has done this once before in A Good Man Goes to War, but only because it was absolutely necessary. | |||
:2. We're never properly told why she was in New York in the first place, and it would appear she's been there for some time. She already knew quite well what was going on with the "time issues" around the city when Rory showed up, and she was already known as Melody Malone by Grayle- who also knew she had been studying Angels there. It may just be that she was having her own little adventure when her family happened to show up. | |||
:3. Even her dialogue suggest that she came from further ahead than usual. "Pardoned ages ago"- this erasure of the Doctor from databases is a new development, and she seems to have been out of prison now for quite some time indeed. (Especially thanks to the fact that she would have had to do a lot of work to become a professor, as was stated above.) She also mentions that she would "travel with the Doctor, but not all the time" shortly before she leaves (meaning "not now either"). Personally I think its not because she '''can't''' travel with him permanently, but because this River simply already knows she '''didn't'''. It would also explain why she tells him not to travel alone if she knows he's supposed to find a companion- already knowing that he did in her own personal past, possibly even later being told that he found said companion "because you told me to". | |||
:4. We've already concreted the fact that she isn't moving in a linear "back-to-front" manner but in more of a jumbled order that '''generally''' heads backwards, so an appearance like this would be bound to happen anyway. | |||
:5. There was no diary swapping this time. That's pretty unusual for both River and even the show itself. It could have been on purpose so that they could reveal her "late"ness here later. | |||
:There are a few more examples, but I can't specifically recall. It's also still possible for me to just be wrong, and that's fine. Either way, it just seems like this River is much further ahead than usual. I'd be happy to see him call her "professor Song" in the next episode she's in, and her react by saying "that still hasn't happened yet" (since it would be the second time he's made that mistake).[[User:Saghan|Saghan]] [[User talk:Saghan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:13, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | |||
