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:::Anyway, if you want to change the rules, please make your attempt in another thread. Again, as things stand, ''P.S.'' is ''clearly'' not a valid source under our current rules. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:10: Sun 04 Nov 2012</span> | :::Anyway, if you want to change the rules, please make your attempt in another thread. Again, as things stand, ''P.S.'' is ''clearly'' not a valid source under our current rules. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:10: Sun 04 Nov 2012</span> | ||
::::Another point about HOMEVID: ''Shada''. The linking narration has to be thrown out because of Baker's problematic use of the first person "I" and "me". Is he meaning the [[Fourth Doctor]] or [[Tom Baker]]? | |||
::::If he means Tom Baker, then it's clearly non-narrative and we therefore have no narrative for the points of the story that weren't filmed. | |||
::::(By the time you get to episodes 5 and 6, you're talking segments that average to about 15 minutes that are ''almost'' entirely narration.) | |||
::::But if he means the Fourth Doctor, we also have a problem. At the start of the whole programme, he's going around some '"Doctor Who'' museum where he's dressed exactly the same as he is during the narration — which is to say ''not'' like the Fourth Doctor. Actually, he's as ''not'' dressed like the Fourth Doctor as you can get: double-breasted suit, hanky in the pocket, the full-on "Thatcherite businessman" look. His hair looks nothing like it did even when he regenerated. And he breaks the [[fourth wall]] in that opening segment with impunity, not by just his own actions (which obviously he did as the Fourth Doctor), but by mentioning the names of actors and writers. I think on balance, one would have to say that he's presenting himself more or less as Tom Baker to begin with and that, in the narration, he's probably referring to himself, rather than the Fourth Doctor — that, essentially, he sees no difference between himself and the character. | |||
::::Otherwise, because this is a visual medium, you'd be forced to say that this was an "appearance of the Fourth Doctor", and you'd have to rationalise why he's wearing this suit, why his hair looks so different, that there's a museum in the DWU that clearly shows various races to be nothing more than full suits that can be worn, etc. | |||
::::Thus although the linking narration is ''fine'' for the composition of, say, the plot section at [[Shada (TV story)]], there is no valid linking narration that could be used for the writing of in-universe articles. | |||
::::The in-universe sources for ''Shada'' are the webcast, the audio and now the novelisation. Like ''Human Nature'', we can sorta squint our eyes and say that the same adventure happened to two Doctors — Eight on audio and web, Four in the novelisation. But the home video is a collection of deleted scenes — which means that even under OS25's proposed new language for policy, it wouldn't count as a [[T:VS|valid source]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:54: Sun 04 Nov 2012</span> | |||
