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The Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone did still happen though, as we see River near the end of The Wedding of River Song, having only just experienced that adventure. And if all records of the Doctor have vanished from all of time, then River would never have been imprisoned in the first place, as you can't be convicted of killing someone who there's no record of ever existing. [[Special:Contributions/82.20.113.152|82.20.113.152]]<sup>[[User talk:82.20.113.152#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:59, November 10, 2012 (UTC) | The Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone did still happen though, as we see River near the end of The Wedding of River Song, having only just experienced that adventure. And if all records of the Doctor have vanished from all of time, then River would never have been imprisoned in the first place, as you can't be convicted of killing someone who there's no record of ever existing. [[Special:Contributions/82.20.113.152|82.20.113.152]]<sup>[[User talk:82.20.113.152#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:59, November 10, 2012 (UTC) | ||
Because of the tangled relationship between River's timeline & the Doctor's timeline -- the general trend being one going backwards relative to the other but with numerous exceptions to that trend -- it's quite possible that the reason we're having trouble working out what's happening is that we've seen a consequence (River being pardoned) before we've seen its cause (the records being got at). | |||
82: I wouldn't rely too much on the idea that "you can't be convicted of killing someone who there's no record of ever existing". If there's enough evidence that you did kill '''someone''', even someone who can't be found in records & whose corpse has vanished, you '''could''' still be convicted -- in most jurisdictions, anyway. | |||
However, we know that there were witnesses to the shooting who know full-well that it was the ''Teselecta'' that was shot: the crew of the ''Teselecta''. They work for someone's Department of Justice, so they're not likely to be very keen on being responsible for keeping River in prison without a really good reason for it. The really good reason, at the time, was the need to convince the Silence that the Doctor was dead, so they would stop trying to kill him. River being pardoned suggests that the need to fool the Silence has somehow been removed. We've not yet seen anything happen that would remove it. The key point there is that we've not '''yet''' seen it. | |||
We know (from Dorium in ''The Wedding of River Song'') that there's more to come: the Fields of Trenzalore, the Question, & so on. We also know that there seems likely to be some connection (don't know what) between the new companion who's meant to join the Doctor in the Christmas episode & someone (Oswin) who was exceptionally good at removing records of the Doctor from the Daleks' databases. | |||
All of that points in the same direction -- that River's pardon is the result of events that we'll learn about in episodes yet to be shown. --[[Special:Contributions/2.101.48.25|2.101.48.25]]<sup>[[User talk:2.101.48.25#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:54, November 11, 2012 (UTC) | |||
