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:::::It's either loosely applied or it's not. Clearly, a mod or admin needs to have the final word here, because she's just as much a companion as Adam Mitchell, Vincent van Gogh, Madame Vastra, and Dorium Maldovar. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.226.87|75.141.226.87]]<sup>[[User talk:75.141.226.87#top|talk to me]]</sup> 01:51, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | :::::It's either loosely applied or it's not. Clearly, a mod or admin needs to have the final word here, because she's just as much a companion as Adam Mitchell, Vincent van Gogh, Madame Vastra, and Dorium Maldovar. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.226.87|75.141.226.87]]<sup>[[User talk:75.141.226.87#top|talk to me]]</sup> 01:51, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::: Yeah, reading this particular discussion, personal individual opinion (statements like "Because she just isn't" is utterly meaningless. I agree with 75 that the judgement call has to be made by authority, not by us. Personally, I tend to go with what the BBC says, and last I looked, for example, Adam was considered a companion. Criteria such as "must have travelled in the TARDIS" cannot be included because if that's the case then Liz Shaw must be disqualified and no one wants to do that. (And if you want to be that technical, than Vastra and Jenny and Strax and Dorium are all companions because they rode in the TARDIS in AGMGTW (and Vastra got another ride in Snowmen), whereas Clara actually isn't a companion yet because she hasn't had the chance yet). What this wiki - and in fact fandom in tot - needs to do is follow the lead of when they disqualified Pluto as a planet and gave it a special designation all its own - there needs to be a "pseudo-companion" or "close associate" category created for characters like the Brigadier, Sara Kingdom, Jackie Tyler, as Vastra, Jenny and Strax. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC) | :::::: Yeah, reading this particular discussion, personal individual opinion (statements like "Because she just isn't" is utterly meaningless. I agree with 75 that the judgement call has to be made by authority, not by us. Personally, I tend to go with what the BBC says, and last I looked, for example, Adam was considered a companion. Criteria such as "must have travelled in the TARDIS" cannot be included because if that's the case then Liz Shaw must be disqualified and no one wants to do that. (And if you want to be that technical, than Vastra and Jenny and Strax and Dorium are all companions because they rode in the TARDIS in AGMGTW (and Vastra got another ride in Snowmen), whereas Clara actually isn't a companion yet because she hasn't had the chance yet). What this wiki - and in fact fandom in tot - needs to do is follow the lead of when they disqualified Pluto as a planet and gave it a special designation all its own - there needs to be a "pseudo-companion" or "close associate" category created for characters like the Brigadier, Sara Kingdom, Jackie Tyler, as Vastra, Jenny and Strax. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC) | ||
::::::: I wasn't saying that a TARDIS ride automatically constitutes companion status, but that within the fandom, it seems to be one of the points people often use to support the idea. Then there are people like Grace Holloway, Atrid Peth, Christina de Souza, and Clara Oswald who have acted in companionate status (including having their names in the opening credits) but have never ridden even stepped inside the TARDIS. I've seen them their companion status contested for that reason (even though I disagree with it personally). And then there are characters like River Song and Craig Owens who have also acted in companion status on more than one occasion, River has been in the TARDIS multiple times (but Craig has never seen it), but Alex and James have never had their names in the opening credits. This wiki ''still'' has Vasta listed as a companion of Eleven and I still think if she's got the status, then Jenny should as well. I do like your idea of a psuedo companion or close associate idea though. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.226.87|75.141.226.87]]<sup>[[User talk:75.141.226.87#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:36, January 3, 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Okay, of all the people you just listed, only Adam Mitchell is actually a companion. The rest I will remove myself. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 02:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | :Okay, of all the people you just listed, only Adam Mitchell is actually a companion. The rest I will remove myself. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 02:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC) |