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Although I've missed the main debate, I thought it was worth contributing anyway. Calling me an active administrator would be misleading as I haven't contributed significantly for a long time, along with many others on the admin list that no longer contribute. However all of the users on the list were given those rights based on the work they did on the wiki and the help they gave to building it up to the level it's at today. To remove those rights needlessly would be pointless. Also there is no admin number limit so I don't see how a number of inactive admins affects the wiki negatively. Also these admins can be contacted if needed, through their talk pages and some will return and help out if thre is a big need for somebody with admin status. I dont understand why, because an admin has more rights, they should notify people when they will go and return either. They are normal people and shouldn't have to set out their plans on here and keep track of their acativities for the wiki. The description of the proposal was that it wasn't about getting rid of admins but about making sure there are plenty around. I understand the concern about the level of active admins needed but removing adminship won't change that, if people are going to stop editing they can't be forced into returning and editing by removing their status, that was just create ill-feeling and make them less likely to return, which won't increase the number of active admins. The only way to have more active admins is to appoint more and thats down to the bureaucrats, if they think they should, and there are several active bureacrats so I don't see any problem there either but we shouldn't create admins for the sake of it, just to build up numbers, so I think we should be careful with the idea of minimum numbers of active admins, but it's something that could be discussed. Phew! That's all for now.--[[User:GingerM|GingerM]] 08:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | Although I've missed the main debate, I thought it was worth contributing anyway. Calling me an active administrator would be misleading as I haven't contributed significantly for a long time, along with many others on the admin list that no longer contribute. However all of the users on the list were given those rights based on the work they did on the wiki and the help they gave to building it up to the level it's at today. To remove those rights needlessly would be pointless. Also there is no admin number limit so I don't see how a number of inactive admins affects the wiki negatively. Also these admins can be contacted if needed, through their talk pages and some will return and help out if thre is a big need for somebody with admin status. I dont understand why, because an admin has more rights, they should notify people when they will go and return either. They are normal people and shouldn't have to set out their plans on here and keep track of their acativities for the wiki. The description of the proposal was that it wasn't about getting rid of admins but about making sure there are plenty around. I understand the concern about the level of active admins needed but removing adminship won't change that, if people are going to stop editing they can't be forced into returning and editing by removing their status, that was just create ill-feeling and make them less likely to return, which won't increase the number of active admins. The only way to have more active admins is to appoint more and thats down to the bureaucrats, if they think they should, and there are several active bureacrats so I don't see any problem there either but we shouldn't create admins for the sake of it, just to build up numbers, so I think we should be careful with the idea of minimum numbers of active admins, but it's something that could be discussed. Phew! That's all for now.--[[User:GingerM|GingerM]] 08:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
I'll also add on the topic of low admin numbers there is an "official" proces to create new administrators and bureaucrats, at [[Tardis:User rights]] and as long as that page is watched by bureaucrats with the power to create new admins then users can nominate themselves or others and keep the process going, so really I think theres no real need to worry about low admin numbers, as long as the official processes are in place it wont be a problem.--[[User:GingerM|GingerM]] 20:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC) |
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