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:I hadn't made that connection with Jack, I was only thinking of the prejudice angle. And she had no problem with Jack before Bad Wolf happened. Whatever is going on with Clara, I seriously got the indication that most of it is happening in the future.  
:I hadn't made that connection with Jack, I was only thinking of the prejudice angle. And she had no problem with Jack before Bad Wolf happened. Whatever is going on with Clara, I seriously got the indication that most of it is happening in the future.  
:Here's what I think. The TARDIS can see past, present, and future, all at once. She never wants to give the Doctor back - so she doesn't want to land anywhere that she can't foresee the Doctor surviving to get back to her. She didn't want to land on The Impossible Planet, either, and that was a dern close call. I think that she can foresee that something about being around Clara in the future is going to harm the Doctor. She even let that Ice Governess enter the Control Room to drag her out. She can open and close her own doors - snap of the fingers - so, yeah, I think she doesn't like Clara - who is being shown as rather more unconsciously perceptive than any random person should be, by rights.--[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:13, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
:Here's what I think. The TARDIS can see past, present, and future, all at once. She never wants to give the Doctor back - so she doesn't want to land anywhere that she can't foresee the Doctor surviving to get back to her. She didn't want to land on The Impossible Planet, either, and that was a dern close call. I think that she can foresee that something about being around Clara in the future is going to harm the Doctor. She even let that Ice Governess enter the Control Room to drag her out. She can open and close her own doors - snap of the fingers - so, yeah, I think she doesn't like Clara - who is being shown as rather more unconsciously perceptive than any random person should be, by rights.--[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:13, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
ComicBookGoddess, "the way the shot was juxtaposed with the book makes it look to me like Ellie died when Clara was 16": You don't need to guess based on that. The date on Ellie's grave was 2005, which is 8 years ago. Clara is 24 now, so she would indeed have been 16 then. The other age she missed was 23, one year ago, & (as you say) that also seems to be associated with a death: the friend who was the mother of Angie & Artie Maitland. It'd be interesting to know if that's the same friend we saw with Modern Clara in the brief "flashforward" at the end of ''The Snowmen'', when Modern Clara stood beside Victorian Clara's grave & said she didn't believe in ghosts.
I don't think it's the same as Bad Wolf, either. The theory that was pointed out to Imamadmad & to which she provided a link (above) was basically saying that Clara could be some kind of emissary of Rose/Bad Wolf. That's what doesn't convince me. (I was 2, earlier.) --[[Special:Contributions/89.242.73.175|89.242.73.175]]<sup>[[User talk:89.242.73.175#top|talk to me]]</sup> 05:22, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
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