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As far as I can tell (& I've not had the benefit of Time Lord training), a "fixed point" is something '''nobody''' can change, without the disastrous kind of results seen in ''The Wedding of River Song'', but an "established event" is something someone can't change because, '''in that person's timeline''', it's already happened (or its consequences have). That was why the Doctor, in ''The Angels Take Manhattan'', was upset by Amy reading out the bit about River's broken wrist -- it established that event in his timeline, so he couldn't then change it. If he'd not known about it, he might have been able to find a way to free her without that injury. From what he said to Donna in ''The Fires of Pompeii'', he'd see when he encountered it that he couldn't (or, rather, that he mustn't) change a "fixed point", even if he'd no previous knowledge of the event. | As far as I can tell (& I've not had the benefit of Time Lord training), a "fixed point" is something '''nobody''' can change, without the disastrous kind of results seen in ''The Wedding of River Song'', but an "established event" is something someone can't change because, '''in that person's timeline''', it's already happened (or its consequences have). That was why the Doctor, in ''The Angels Take Manhattan'', was upset by Amy reading out the bit about River's broken wrist -- it established that event in his timeline, so he couldn't then change it. If he'd not known about it, he might have been able to find a way to free her without that injury. From what he said to Donna in ''The Fires of Pompeii'', he'd see when he encountered it that he couldn't (or, rather, that he mustn't) change a "fixed point", even if he'd no previous knowledge of the event. | ||
To make matters still more confusing, he sometimes '''can''' change things that he knows have "already happened". He certainly did that in ''Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS'', when he rewrote time to prevent the TARDIS being destroyed, Clara dying again & so on. Either the scriptwriters are inconsistent or there are factors involved that have never been made clear in the show -- maybe both. | To make matters still more confusing, he sometimes '''can''' change things that he knows have "already happened". He certainly did that in ''Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS'', when he rewrote time to prevent the TARDIS being destroyed, Clara dying again & so on. Either the scriptwriters are inconsistent or there are factors involved that have never been made clear in the show -- maybe both. | ||
And, of course, ''The Angels Take Manhattan'' introduced yet another confusingly similar idea: "fixed time", which Amy & Rory managed to create for themselves. Aaargh! I think my brain's beginning to melt! (Having been 89 & then 2, I seem to be 92 now.) --[[Special:Contributions/92.16.5.71|92.16.5.71]]<sup>[[User talk:92.16.5.71#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:22, May 2, 2013 (UTC) | And, of course, ''The Angels Take Manhattan'' introduced yet another confusingly similar idea: "fixed time", which Amy & Rory managed to create for themselves. Aaargh! I think my brain's beginning to melt! (Having been 89 & then 2, I seem to be 92 now.) --[[Special:Contributions/92.16.5.71|92.16.5.71]]<sup>[[User talk:92.16.5.71#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:22, May 2, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:By the way, on your comment about the Doctor changing the events in ''Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS'': the events that occurred where centred around a time crack in the TARDIS, so the permanence of all of those events was questionable anyways. It's like what happened with the time cracks surrounding Big Bang 2--everything that happened around the time of the cracks was erased, and paradoxes such as the older and younger Amelia Ponds crossing paths didn't affect anything. So the events in ''Journey'' are not necessarily fixed points. Just wanted to point that out! :) [[User:Milar Kayne|Milar Kayne]] [[User talk:Milar Kayne|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:46, May 19, 2013 (UTC) | |||
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