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Boss MD: Not just the explanation -- the explanation & the consequences. The position in the sequence will really matter only to the extent that it affects those things. --[[Special:Contributions/89.241.74.205|89.241.74.205]]<sup>[[User talk:89.241.74.205#top|talk to me]]</sup> 02:50, June 2, 2013 (UTC) | Boss MD: Not just the explanation -- the explanation & the consequences. The position in the sequence will really matter only to the extent that it affects those things. --[[Special:Contributions/89.241.74.205|89.241.74.205]]<sup>[[User talk:89.241.74.205#top|talk to me]]</sup> 02:50, June 2, 2013 (UTC) | ||
I just watched "Name..." on Saturday night, and it seemed to, if not confirm, be compatible with suspicions I had from near the beginning of "Nightmare in Silver." I think John Hurt's character is the person for whom Porridge/The Emperor said he felt sorry. That is, the person who had to push the button to end the Cyber war against humanity, at a great cost. Hurt's dialogue, that he had no choice, did it for peace, etc., matches Porridge's description of the events, and the futility and horrible waste, as the Cybermen just kept adapting. Also just as Porridge has ended his statement about the man he feels sorry for, the Doctor walks into the scene. | |||
This sort of behavior might be contrasted to that of the ninth Doctor at the "Parting..." where he has jerry rigged a device to stop the Daleks, only he wont use it because it will also kill millions on Earth. | |||
The producers would not have gone so far into this Cyber war and detailed its disasterous results unless it had some ongoing significance. Hurt may have something to do with the Time War, but sealing the war with Galifrey with a Time Lock would not be on the same scale as this. The dedication to destroying the planet in "Nightmare..." may show how serious those people take the resolution of the war, as much as their fear of the Cybermen. | |||
One other detail to consider: River Song, the time travelling archeologist, might well know a bit of the Doctor's future history beyond their relationship. If that is the case, what all might she do to try to save the Doctor, and how might that conflict with the Tardis's desire to not always take the Doctor where he wants to go, but where he needs to go? River has some connection to Clara, and Clara's role is to save the Doctor. Is Hurt part of the Doctor's timestream that River thinks she can "fix"? And is the only way Clara can save Hurt is to survive the spintering and help him as herself? | |||
When River tells Amy not to worry about how she treated Madame Kovarian when Time stopped moving, because it was in a timeline that no longer exists, Amy says that it doesn't matter. She did it. So even if the Doctor, River, Clara (& Tennant & Piper) can save Hurt, he still will have done whatever he did, and it will affect the Doctor just the same. [[User:Phil Stone|Phil Stone]] [[User talk:Phil Stone|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:04, June 3, 2013 (UTC) | |||
