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Chris: Even if the one sentence you quote doesn't mean "that the promise broken ... was that engendered in the name 'Doctor'," the conversation as a whole does. The only name being talked about is "Doctor". The only promise being talked about is the one inherent in the name "Doctor". And, just in case anyone's missed the point, Eleven rams it home by concluding, "But not in the name of the '''Doctor'''!" Even without the caption at the end, we've been told clearly that the name is "Doctor" & the promise broken '''was''' that one. --[[Special:Contributions/2.101.50.121|2.101.50.121]]<sup>[[User talk:2.101.50.121#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:28, June 16, 2013 (UTC) | Chris: Even if the one sentence you quote doesn't mean "that the promise broken ... was that engendered in the name 'Doctor'," the conversation as a whole does. The only name being talked about is "Doctor". The only promise being talked about is the one inherent in the name "Doctor". And, just in case anyone's missed the point, Eleven rams it home by concluding, "But not in the name of the '''Doctor'''!" Even without the caption at the end, we've been told clearly that the name is "Doctor" & the promise broken '''was''' that one. --[[Special:Contributions/2.101.50.121|2.101.50.121]]<sup>[[User talk:2.101.50.121#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:28, June 16, 2013 (UTC) | ||
: I still think y'all are thinking too small. The obvious conclusion is that Hurt is a past or future incarnation of The Doctor. But this is Moffat, we're talking about. He "killed" the Doctor, married him off, had The Doctor's Companions be his in-laws, took another Companion and fractured her into hundreds of echoes and scattered her throughout The Doctor's existence...none of these were predictable plot twists. I think we have to think outside the box of normal expectations and think of who this time-stream-bound figure titled "The Doctor" could be since, as Clara said, she saw all eleven incarnations of The Doctor and Hurt wasn't one of them. Who knows if this character even exists outside The Doctor's timestream? Maybe he has never had a physical manifestation. It could be his conscience, or his shadow side, the personification of his regrets, some aspect of his internal life. | |||
: I'm not optimistic that anyone here will guess where Moffat is going to go with this plot but I find these differences of opinion about which number Doctor that Hurt will be is looking at an individual tree instead of seeing the forest. Don't think about this as "what makes sense based on what I know of Doctor Who"...think along the lines of "what makes sense based on what I've seen in Moffat's storylines". Because what it WON'T be is what seems to be the most obvious. That is the only thing I am sure of. [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:22, June 16, 2013 (UTC) |
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