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::At the end of the day, the reason this article needs to go is that it just doesn't have a clear title. It's not a legitimate topic. Listing every instance of "doctor" (or synonyms) appearing close to "who" (or synonyms), is a very bad idea. See, jokes are ''deliberate''. We would have to know for certain that the writer actually ''was'' making a pun. And we just don't know that, normally. Certainly we don't know it for the majority of items on this list. Any deliberate puns we can adequately note, with appropriate sourcing, on story pages. Otherwise most of this information should just be filed away under "wishful fan thinking". {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 20:07: Sun 22 Sep 2013</span> | ::At the end of the day, the reason this article needs to go is that it just doesn't have a clear title. It's not a legitimate topic. Listing every instance of "doctor" (or synonyms) appearing close to "who" (or synonyms), is a very bad idea. See, jokes are ''deliberate''. We would have to know for certain that the writer actually ''was'' making a pun. And we just don't know that, normally. Certainly we don't know it for the majority of items on this list. Any deliberate puns we can adequately note, with appropriate sourcing, on story pages. Otherwise most of this information should just be filed away under "wishful fan thinking". {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 20:07: Sun 22 Sep 2013</span> | ||
::I've read a couple books about the history of Doctor Who that refer to it as the "''Doctor Who'' Running Joke." I don't actually have the books on me, as I'm at work right now, but I can look them up when I get home and cite them. That being said, if the opinion of the individual matters, when I first discovered this site I liked the fact that there was a page that referenced all the instances that "Doctor Who?" was used in-universe. If it's not a running joke, what would you call it? The "Doctor Who?" Usage List? The "Doctor Who?" Metaphysical Reference Guide? Those all read rather cumbersome, don't you think? | :::I've read a couple books about the history of Doctor Who that refer to it as the "''Doctor Who'' Running Joke." I don't actually have the books on me, as I'm at work right now, but I can look them up when I get home and cite them. That being said, if the opinion of the individual matters, when I first discovered this site I liked the fact that there was a page that referenced all the instances that "Doctor Who?" was used in-universe. If it's not a running joke, what would you call it? The "Doctor Who?" Usage List? The "Doctor Who?" Metaphysical Reference Guide? Those all read rather cumbersome, don't you think? | ||
::As for knowing whether the writers were ''deliberately'' making a reference, I'm not sure that matters either. There are plenty enough references in the Classic series to make the argument that they're more than incidental; do you want to say it's a coincidence that the "wizardly" name the Third Doctor chooses in The Daemons, Quiquaequod, is made up of three different forms of the word "Who" in Latin? The revived series is a little more heavy-handed in making sure the audience gets the reference, that's all. | :::As for knowing whether the writers were ''deliberately'' making a reference, I'm not sure that matters either. There are plenty enough references in the Classic series to make the argument that they're more than incidental; do you want to say it's a coincidence that the "wizardly" name the Third Doctor chooses in The Daemons, Quiquaequod, is made up of three different forms of the word "Who" in Latin? The revived series is a little more heavy-handed in making sure the audience gets the reference, that's all. | ||
::Sorry, just offering an opinion from a different angle. I'll post later with the citations from those books I mentioned. [[User:TARDIStraveler|TARDIStraveler]] [[User talk:TARDIStraveler|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:37, October 3, 2013 (UTC) | :::Sorry, just offering an opinion from a different angle. I'll post later with the citations from those books I mentioned. [[User:TARDIStraveler|TARDIStraveler]] [[User talk:TARDIStraveler|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:37, October 3, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::Okay, one of my Who books is out on loan, but I do still have ''Doctor Who, A History: Celebrating Fifty Years'' by Alan Kistler (which is a '''phenomenal''' read by the way, highly recommend it if you can find it). I'm quoting from page 22, chapter entitled "The Hero with No Name": | |||
:::: In ''[[An Unearthly Child (TV story)|An Unearthly Child]]'', Susan attends [[Coal Hill School]] under the alias [[Susan Foreman]], apparently taking the surname from the fact that [[The Doctor's TARDIS|the TARDIS]] is parked in [[I.M. Foreman]]'s scrap yard (some tie-in novels proposed that I.M. Foreman was a fellow [[Time Lord]] and friend of the Doctor). Naturally, [[Ian Chesterton|Ian]] later addresses the girl's grandfather as "Dr. Foreman." [[First Doctor|The Doctor]] responds in confusion, "Eh? Doctor ''who?''" '''This became a running joke in several episodes across the decades.''' While "Doctor Who" was originally meant to be the character's alias, it instead became a question for the audience. | |||
:::I hope this helps to convince that the page should be left as is. [[User:TARDIStraveler|TARDIStraveler]] [[User talk:TARDIStraveler|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:06, October 4, 2013 (UTC) | |||
